Dennis Sherman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) CORRECTION: Ouestion 2 should have read: "between your body and your gun". Edited March 1, 2007 by Dennis Sherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R/T Performance Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 You lost all the story? Only made one match last year and no equipment or gun check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) Question 2 is misleading. A "3/4" rod" is neither necessary nor possible if the holster is compliant or grossly non-compliant. I personally performed equipment checks at the Natl's and at least (1) holster was found to be out of compliance. I don't recall which penalty (FTDR or DQ) Mr. May issued. The rule was made necessary by the same contigent who resisted it - and it is good. Edited March 2, 2007 by Bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Nobody used a 3/4 inch rod.. UNLESS there was a visible problem. and of course prudent as i was... made sure there wasn't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 here in the south...whenever we do an equipment check and the shooter opens their vest,and there is sausage,biscuts, and gravey stains on their clothes...we stop there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 here in the south...whenever we do an equipment check and the shooter opens their vest,and there is sausage,biscuts, and gravey stains on their clothes...we stop there... I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Sherman Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 That was funny. here in the south...whenever we do an equipment check and the shooter opens their vest,and there is sausage,biscuts, and gravey stains on their clothes...we stop there... I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzdraw Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 As a major match MD, I can tell you that it is fairly quick and easy to check holsters for "light thru the crack" and general holster legality. My 3/4" wood dowel is available, but seldom used. If the holster meets the first two criteria, it most likely passes the 3/4" rule. I prefer to do the check before competition starts, so the shooter can go fix a problem, then get rechecked. My preference is to not issue FTDR's if possible. Once competition begins, then violations must be a FTDR, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Sherman Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) Bones, The process in question 2 is a method in the IDPA rulebook which could be used to determine if a holster is compliant. (the book says object, not rod, my bad) My goal in the question was to gain an idea of how many people shooting IDPA Sanctioned Matches have seen this process being practiced. Dennis Question 2 is misleading. A "3/4" rod" is neither necessary nor possible if the holster is compliant or grossly non-compliant. I personally performed equipment checks at the Natl's and at least (1) holster was found to be out of compliance. I don't recall which penalty (FTDR or DQ) Mr. May issued.The rule was made necessary by the same contigent who resisted it - and it is good. Edited March 5, 2007 by Dennis Sherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) here's another question along the lines of the topic... i was at a state match in 04,all shooters were finished,waiting on scores,the club had a side match going on in one match bays...took a part from the stage and made a side match out of it..$5.00 for 6 shots,no concealment required,fastest time wins...so after watching from a distance and seeing several shooters go thru ...i heard a rather loud discussion going on between the SO's and a shooter, then about 15 minutes later,found out the shooter got DQ'd from the match for an equiptment failure..the holster was a doh type...never did inquire about the make....so is that legal?? does this fall into 1 hr wait period? i know at that match,we went thru 5 or 6 equipment checks during the match...so does this mean to "strip"off equipment as soon as possible ? Edited March 9, 2007 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I answered no to all 3. At least if anyone did check, I was not aware of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeidaho Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 so does this mean to "strip"off equipment as soon as possible ? Gman, I believe there is a more basic lesson here.... that always works. Do not use illegal equipment. Ken Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Gman,I believe there is a more basic lesson here.... that always works. Do not use illegal equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 here's another question along the lines of the topic...i was at a state match in 04,all shooters were finished,waiting on scores,the club had a side match going on in one match bays...took a part from the stage and made a side match out of it..$5.00 for 6 shots,no concealment required,fastest time wins...so after watching from a distance and seeing several shooters go thru ...i heard a rather loud discussion going on between the SO's and a shooter, then about 15 minutes later,found out the shooter got DQ'd from the match for an equiptment failure..the holster was a doh type...never did inquire about the make....so is that legal?? does this fall into 1 hr wait period? i know at that match,we went thru 5 or 6 equipment checks during the match...so does this mean to "strip"off equipment as soon as possible ? If I'm not mistaken, the holster was the (approved) Safariland 560 and the shooter merely used the spacers that came with the holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 The only thing I am looking for as far as holsters go are the "extreme" violators. The Uncle Mike's and the Blade Tech DOH fall into this group. Hell will freeze and pigs will fly before I stick a 3/4" rod between someone's body and holster. I have a couple of holsters that you can see daylight in the tunnel yet are easily within the 3/4" rule. Here's one of them. Joyce Wilson and I had a couple of pretty "lively" conversations about the holster rule when she was gathering info for the new rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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