Steve Anderson Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Just heard on the radio (610 am, columbus, Ohio) that an Air Marshall was suspended for leaving his gun in the plane restroom, where it was found by a passenger! Yikes! Also, did anybody see the air marshall qualifier in "special weapons for military and law enforcement" magazine? The toughest requirement was two shots to center at 21ft. from low ready in 1.5 seconds. I'll post the rest later. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I have a friend who is Marksman shooting IDPA and he happened to meet and shoot with two air Marshalls last month. He dusted them at their own drills. Best they could do on the Mozambique at 7yds was about 3 sec from the leather and concealed. doesn't give me much confidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Here's a link to the qualification test. http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/fam/amq.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 tightloop, if you come Thu nights at 7 to RangeMasters on the 59 range, you can shoot with an air marshall every week. He is pretty good....(learned it from *us*...). Maybe he'll show you the magic bullets they use. 3 sec for a solid Mozambique seems more than sufficient for the purpose to me. --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 If I was getting beaten by a CDP Marksman, regardless of the time or the drill, I wouldn't show up at a match till I could be certain I would not be embarrassed again. I would shoot with you, but I do not shoot indoors; bad lighting, air borne lead particles, not enough ventilation. come to PSC or to Eagle Lake and we can meet face to face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 "The toughest requirement was two shots to center at 21ft. from low ready in 1.5 seconds." Ya know, that's the problem with "Standards." It really becomes a standard of mediocrity. Instead of standards, they ought to only take the top X % of the class. Wanna play Air Marshall? You'd better be the best, or you might not make the cut. That said, Air Marshalling is a job that I'd come to hate in a hurry. There's nothing about flying coach and living in an airport that appeals to me. I think I'd die of total boredom. Note: If anyone does try out for the job, you'll soon be the favorite guy of everyone in the airline industry. When I flew for work, every time I declared my gun, the agent behind the counter would hopefully ask: "Are you the Air Marshall?" They looked so disappointed when I checked my gun in baggage. I felt like saying, "No, but I'll take my gun on board if it'll make you feel better..." E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 "Good afternoon, this is your captain speaking. As you prepare for landing with your seat backs up and your tray tables secure, would the person who found the air marshall's pistol in the restroom please press the attendant button? We will gladly retrieve the weapon from you and unite it with the rightful yet misguided owner. And as always, we thank you for flying with us today." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 According to a USA today story linked on Drudge, the "stringent" shooting qualifier has been dropped... http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20020815/4362661s.htm And here I am planning to fly to Florida late this month. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I am flying to Bend OR next week for Nationals. Trusty Super will be in the cargo bay. Oh well there is always harsh language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Coach my ass, they're up in first class to be near the cockpit. I wonder if those standards have you starting in an airline seat, sandwiched between two 200+ lb. travellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 "Coach my ass, they're up in first class to be near the cockpit. " Okie Dokey! We have a "safety" program run by total freakin' morons. Guys always dressed the same way, sitting in the same place - few of whom can hit a bull in the butt at five paces. Nawww....nobody'll catch on to *that*. Never! I want my nailclippers back. I'll take those odds over the Air Marshmallows. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Air Marshmallows LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 SOP is to have one marshall up front, one in the back. I wonder who gets to pick who's in first class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 16, 2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2002 Let's just keep 'em close to the bathroom so they can be close to their guns. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipster Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Right on Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 You have to give him some credit for not dropping the gun into the toilet. I'm sure we've all heard of tales from the porta-potty at matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 I shot the "stringent" Air Marshall qualification course as a stage at a match. It's not that hard. OTOH the standard for qualification is 100% passes on all strings of fire. And I was the only person at the match to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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