Lostcrawfish Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Just curious if anyone's club does or has considered adding 1 or more steel challenge stages to the regular weekly stages, or local clubs that actually run all 7 stages on a regular basis? I see quite a few guys in our club that have a lot of trouble on steel at ranges >15 yards, and it gave me fits until I started practicing more on longer steel shots. Seems to me it would not only be a lot of fun, but a great opportunity to get more work in to improve accuracy/speed skills on small targets. I know it's not exactly cheap to set up 7 stages, I priced the steel cost for the whole setup on the net at about $2700 without stands. Possibly cheaper from local industrial yards. I asked a couple of ROs/discipline directors in our club about it, but the initial response wasn't exactly overwhelming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 That is a great idea. Just remember that Open guns with Major loads will kill the steel eventually....Velocity kills! Some shooters wont like it because they will have to use their sights and aim, hence possibly the reason that they arent exactly excited about it. I set up the 7 stages several times a year just for practice since I go to the Steel Challenge, and it has helped my IPSC shooting immensely! DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 If it is a USPSA match, steel has to fall to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standles Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 If it is a USPSA match, steel has to fall to score. True so just run it as a side match that is not scored as part of your regular USPSA match. I am just starting to get folks interested in shooting steel at my club. I got a dueling tree and have instigated some 1on1 stuff. It is fun to see the better shooters flounder like a fish out of water <Evil laugh> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ong45 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 If you'r not too picky about following the rules you can score the stage like a 4 string standards with everyone getting the max amount of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Just curious if anyone's club does or has considered adding 1 or more steel challenge stages to the regular weekly stages, or local clubs that actually run all 7 stages on a regular basis? I see quite a few guys in our club that have a lot of trouble on steel at ranges >15 yards, and it gave me fits until I started practicing more on longer steel shots. Seems to me it would not only be a lot of fun, but a great opportunity to get more work in to improve accuracy/speed skills on small targets. I know it's not exactly cheap to set up 7 stages, I priced the steel cost for the whole setup on the net at about $2700 without stands. Possibly cheaper from local industrial yards. I asked a couple of ROs/discipline directors in our club about it, but the initial response wasn't exactly overwhelming..... we hold a separate s/c match 8 months outta the year...you can make some coin cause the only expense after the steel is paid off is paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 No rule book handy. Can USPSA stages be all steel? I was thinking there was a rule that required some paper targets as well. Probably confusing things with IDPA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 We have a local match in Longview, TX that usually includes about four steel stages, and one IDPA-type stage. It's very informal and a lot of fun. You can shoot anything you want, but if you use competitition stuff it's noted with the results. The organizers have duplicated several of the Steel Challenge stages, and one match was mainly comprised of those stages. I thought I was kicking *ss and taking names when I shot Smoke and Hope in 3.5 seconds. Then I watched Shooting Gallery a couple of weeks ago and saw two guys do it in 1.71. If you want more info from the organizers, PM me and I'll give you their e-mail addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostcrawfish Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 anyone here in the tampa bay region know if andy's club (Ruskin) does this or would consider it, or perhaps some others (Hernando, Polk, etc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Steel Challenge is great for several reasons-- -- it's all about transitions -- easy to learn and tough to master -- the stages are repeated so you can track your progress -- easy to run, easy to score, easy to setup and tear down -- great for beginners, less gear needed -- easy to run with .22's Ideally, find a club and get a separate steel match going. A few of us in our club wanted steel matches a few years ago and convinced the club to buy enough for 4 stages... then a little later, the steel for the remaining 3 stages. If you get good steel, even Major loads take a while to beat it up, and the competitive folks will be downloading to Minor before long. It doesn't work very well with IPSC scoring, so you're kinda stuck there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 No rule book handy. Can USPSA stages be all steel? I was thinking there was a rule that required some paper targets as well. Probably confusing things with IDPA... I think you are thinking of rule 4.3.1.4 which says "Various sizes of metal plates may be used (See Appendex C3), however metal plates must not be used exclusivly in a course of fire. At least one authorized paper target or IPSC Popper must be included in each course of fire. Based on that rule you could have an all steel stage if it included a popper. A local club holds its first match each year as an all steel match that is not sanctioned and does not include a classifier. From the club website: Steel match w/ 5 pistol stages Five To Go Outer Limits Zig Zag Showdown On The Rack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman33_99 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Our club tosses in a SC stage from time to time. The club members like the change, and it works transition skills like Shred Mentioned. We score it like USPSA using Procedural if stop is engaged in wrong order. Usually run 4 strings and let shooter cross off worse run. and score best 3 strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) Were shoot four stages of Steel Challenge five times this year. I like it because I can just relax and shoot. It is a good way to test new guns and equipment too. FM Edited March 13, 2006 by Front Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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