Al Capizzo Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I am entirely new to Glock handguns. I've been shooting Govt. model type guns in USPSA competition since about 1911, but I've just bought my first Glock (Model 22). I'm planning on shooting Limited with this gun. But I was wondering if there is actually any advantages to shooting a Glock in competition? They're sorta popular, but only sort of. I'm hoping those of you who've been competing with them for some time can tell me "Glocks are better or as good as SV's or STI because..." Thanks, Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 The Glock is the *perfect* starter gun for IPSC/USPSA. Why? It's simple, relatively inexpensive, and it works. All you really have to focus on is the shooting - which is a *very* good thing. Will a Glock ever win Open? Probably not. But don't let that discourage you from the Glock's many virtues. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A33435 Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I am with EricW, The first year i shot IPSC (standard division) i used the model 34. This (second) year i started with the model 35 and once i got used to the change i caliber got some good results. Here in the netherlands i know some good shooters that started with the glock. It's not likely that the glock win Open ever but in Standard Division, why not! Adrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I won't try to convince anyone the Glock is better than a S_I, but the Glock advantages would be weight, price, operational simplicity, reliability without major investments in mag tuning, etc. If the above are none issues, the S_I is probably the better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 You don't often see a shooter go from a 1911 to a Glock! Cool!!... I'm prone to thinking that because of Glocks design, they allow the shooter to better control recoil because of the polymer frame and very low bore axis. If you can get you mags to drop 100% of the time and get that trigger down to a crisp 2.5# short travel pull, you will have a formidable tool for the games we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 i started with para back in 95,spent a ton of money to get all the goodys. shoot the 96 nationals with it on the same squad with armando valdes he kicked a$$ with his glock 24. and was hell of a nice guy to boot, gave alot of advice to a newbie(me) went home and got me a 24 too and haven't looked back. it works great when i feed it good ammo has less muzzel rise it's just less likely to break parts than 1911's i want to shoot not be a gunsmith. it got me to A class so it can't all be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted October 17, 2002 Author Share Posted October 17, 2002 Thanks for the responses, esp. TDean. Thats what I was looking for. I haven't fired a round out of this gun yet and haven't fired anyone else's Glock in a long time. I'm looking forward to learning some new things with this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Al, if you are switching from the 1911, then you will need some time to get used to where the gun points. The natural grip is certainly different...just gotta spend the time to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 > it's just less likely to break parts than 1911's Riiiight. Just ask Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted October 18, 2002 Author Share Posted October 18, 2002 Who's Tom? or, Tom who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Tom is TDean. He had some Glock trouble at a big match. In his defense, not that he needs my help, the parts he had trouble with weren't Glock brand parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I shot USPSA with 1911s for a decade. Must have owned about ten of them in that time - and spent beau coups $$$ setting them up and to keep them running. Bought my first G17 the year after they hit the U.S. market. Today I have NO 1911s but I own eleven Glocks. I use them for CCW, plinking, home defense, trail guns, bowling pin shooting and USPSA. Some are pure stock and others have been radically modified. The nice thing about a Glock that they are always 110% reliable out of the box and cost about 1/3 what a 1911 does to "customize" for serious competition. (Edited by Krag at 5:54 pm on Oct. 28, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Hey, you guys stop picking on my po-widdle Gwock! FYI, it worked well for 2 matches this weekend one of which I had the pleasure of squadding with Travis and his dad. There's no doubt where TT gets his raw skill from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 When you guys talk about short, crisp 2.5# trigger pulls on glocks am I picturing this correctly: "trigger tweaked back such that it is already loading the striker spring near full compression"? Which means at this point the trigger bar ear (?) is near (if not out) of the safety shelf and the firing pin saftey is almost disengaged/fully depressed? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 McOliver - we have a Glocksmith in my area who uses the following parts to produce a trigger that breaks at a 2-2.25 lbs.: 1. LSPI competition trigger 2. " titanium striker 3. " " safety plunger 4. Wolf 10% reduced striker spring 5. Glock 3.5 lbs. connector He modifies the trigger and installs an internal trigger stop that does away with most of the take up and all of the overtravel. It's about as close to a 1911 trigger as I've ever felt. The striker is not "loaded" and ALL the safeties work 100%. If you want to contact me I'll be happy to tell you how to get in touch with him. (Edited by Krag at 5:30 am on Oct. 29, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A33435 Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Why Glock's? Why not. This weekend we shot a qualifier in your region. Guess what, the only 2 competing G35 shooters won 2 stages. 1 speedshoot 1 fieldcourse (with popper and 2 targets to be shot at 50 yards) Maybe this post should be moved to "bragging rights" forum because i won the speedshoot and my buddy the fieldcourse. And yes we were proud DVC Adrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 It's not "precompressing" the striker or anything like that, it's just a matter of lowering the resistance when you pull the trigger and compress the striker spring, as well as allowing the striker to release from the trigger bar earlier. Once you get the striker to release early with enough force to reliably ignite Federal primers, install a stop. There's no reason to have more rearward trigger movement after the striker is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 The GA State (GA resident) Limited Champion this year is a Glock Jock. He made master with a Glock. (Edited by Singlestack at 12:46 pm on Oct. 29, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 The 2002 N.C. State L10 Champion, Lin Webb, is the Glocksmith I mentioned in my previous post. He used a G35 with one of his triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Quote: from TDean on 9:24 am on Oct. 29, 2002 It's not "precompressing" the striker or anything like that, it's just a matter of lowering the resistance when you pull the trigger and compress the striker spring, as well as allowing the striker to release from the trigger bar earlier. Once you get the striker to release early with enough force to reliably ignite Federal primers, install a stop. There's no reason to have more rearward trigger movement after the striker is released. Thanks, TDean. Somehow I got this notion that the striker HAD to be fully pulled back to the rear for reliable ignition...duh! --------- Krag, thanks for the offer. My location, however, makes it difficult for me to take it. Besides I only have one glock so far and it's primary responsibility is for personal protection. Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightnin Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Strike 1: I shoot a G21---wrong caliber!!! Strike 2: Wrong gun---not a 1911 (so they say)! I have a ball with it and it's gotten me to A-Class so far. And it ALWAYS works. I see too many $2500 1911's choke and puke. I like what I shoot and I shoot what I like!!!!!!! Also....the .45 is SOOOOOOO forgiving!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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