EricW Posted September 18, 2001 Share Posted September 18, 2001 What's the good word on tungsten guide rods for the Glock? Is the 2oz weight gain noticeable? Are they worth the expense? Any reliability issues to be concerned with? Thanks for the input!! Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 18, 2001 Share Posted September 18, 2001 EricW, I installed one of the non-captured tungsten rods from Glockmiester in my G35. IMO the weight gain was very noticeable and I like the way it handles. My perception was reduced flip in a pistol that flips a lot. I think they are worth the money. As far as reliability, too soon to tell. Only had it 2 months. No issues so far...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 19, 2001 Share Posted September 19, 2001 Eric, Although not a glockMaster, I would think 2 ozs would absolutely "soften" your Glock. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 20, 2001 Author Share Posted September 20, 2001 Allrighty then! A Glockster and his money will soon be parted... Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted September 20, 2001 Share Posted September 20, 2001 One thing I don't like about the current crop of tungsten rods is they are undersize in diameter. The one I have only measures .243" in diameter and is 3.175" long. I plan on making one in the next day or two that will be .270" x 4". I think T.H.E. makes a longer one for the G34 & G35, but it has a small O.D. also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPSC Supercop Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 I remember taking Todd Jarrett's class several years ago and two of the guys in the class were shooting Glocks. First thing Todd told them was to put as much weight as they possibly could into the frame of the Glock to try and control it better. It also kind of re-emphasizes what Brian said about weight in the frame and Grams Engineering magwells. I have one on my STI and I gotta say, "Thank you Brian", it has never shot this well and handled so nice. When Grams comes out with his Glock magwell, it should be a hot seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockLady Posted September 27, 2001 Share Posted September 27, 2001 Frankenstein is now wearing a tungsten guiderod (from THE maybe?) with a 12# ISMI flat spring and a THE brass magwell. The weight addition is quite noticeable, and the balance is terrific. Since he's set up for GSSF U/L competition where you can only load 10 rounds in the mag, the added weight on the magwell is especially welcome. Both accessories purchased from Custom Glock Racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 28, 2001 Author Share Posted September 28, 2001 Well...the tungsten guide rod is on order from Glockmeister. If that doesn't cut the muzzle flip a bit, I think I'm just going to epoxy an anvil onto the front of the stinkin' thing. Why be subtle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 28, 2001 Share Posted September 28, 2001 Brian, My muzzle (stock Glock 35) flips like a banshee. I shot a Para (P16/40) and a Caspian double-stack 40 tonight. I tried a quick Bill drill with each. Both guns flipped less. I don't know that they were faster for me though. At the Limited Nationals, I (a C class shooter) was able to place 13th, 54th, 57th and 60th on the get your gun out and blast the targets type stages. I was shooting Blazer ammo (187pf). I wasn't just throwing shots at the targets. I was seeing pretty well. My question is just how much does a lot of muzzle flip slow a shooter down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 28, 2001 Share Posted September 28, 2001 Ok Kyle, How do you make different font?!?! I have tried and tried and refused to ask you but now I HAVE to know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted September 28, 2001 Share Posted September 28, 2001 Muzzle flip slows you down depending on what you see, and what the limiting factor of the target is. On a wide open blaster, you won't be slowed down as much. (If your vision is on, you might not have any time difference.) But on a pair of targets overlapped with a no-shoot, you'll be slowed down quite a bit as you wait to see that the sights are off the white and on the tan before shooting. A club near us shoots stages that are wide open, with lots of targets, few no-shoots and close ranges. When they visit us and have to deal with no-shoots, hard cover and poppers at difficult angles to the barricade, either their times greatly increase or they whack lots of no-shoots. If you want to see what muzzle rise does to your shooting, try pairs on either side of a no-shoot, not Bill drills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 28, 2001 Share Posted September 28, 2001 Thanks Patrick. I'll give that a shot (or quite a few shoots). I think that I try to ignore the no-shoots...I am going for the A-zone anyway. Sounds like a good drill to try with the timer. I know that often what we feel and what the timer tells us are two different things. What you say makes perfectly good sense to me. With a NS you have to be sure of your A's. (Edited by Flexmoney at 2:42 pm on Sep. 28, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 29, 2001 Author Share Posted September 29, 2001 That's an interesting observation about the no shoots. My major problem with flip is up/down placement. I'm still learning how to time pulling down the muzzle for the second tap. With side to side placement with a no shoot, I have no worries. I discovered last night that when I was pulling the gun out of recoil I actually pulled the front sight down too far lost it beneath the front of the slide. At least this is better than my previous problem where I used to milk the grip and pull the shots off to the left... By the way, I'm having a tough time getting the splits on my double taps under 0.2. Any recommendations on how to double a Glock fast? (Besides the anvil?) Thanks!! Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 30, 2001 Share Posted September 30, 2001 Eric, You're just letting the trigger out to the point where it resets right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted October 3, 2001 Author Share Posted October 3, 2001 I don't think I'm letting the trigger go too far forward. I just haven't focused on that for a while. I'll make a point of paying attention to it the next time I head out. Thanks for the reminder!! By the way, I just got my Tungsten guide rod in from the Glockmeister. It looks good. As far as one concern about the diameter of the guide rod, this one is about as big as it can get without binding on the spring. It measures right about .250". The price was right too, about $40 - GM has them on sale. I'll send in a performance report on the rod, but right now it seems to dramatically change the way the gun balances - a very good thing. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 EricW, Don't get too caught up in the length of the trigger pull thing as far as speed goes. There are many revolver guys that flat out scoot with their double action pulls. What caught my eye from your earlier post was this statement: I'm still learning how to time pulling down the muzzle for the second tap. I see one great thing...the still learning, and three things that could be trouble. The how to time, pulling and second tap are things to be aware of. Depending on what context they were meant they might be indicators of thing to avoid. Or they could be just fine. I won't attempt to tackle the issue. Perhaps Brian will shed some light here. And, thanks for the lead on the guide rod that glockmeister has on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted October 24, 2001 Author Share Posted October 24, 2001 Well, promised a range report, so here it goes: The Glockmeister tungsten guide rod gets two thumbs up. It wasn't a life-changing experience or anything, but the controllability improvement was certainly worth $40-45. No jams or malfunctions in 5-600 rounds so far. I don't like how the capture feature works though. The screw that retains the spring needs some type of locking mechanism like a recess with an O-ring or the like. Currently, it's rather difficult to securely tighten the screw w/o the assistance of a vice or strap wrench to really torque it down. Overall, it's a good thing. I like it. You just might too. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Hey guys, I have a tungsten guide rod in my G35 and a seattle slug and I notice a nice difference in recoil. My double taps are much faster and so is target to target acquisition. If you want to shoot factory ammo I suggest Winchester 165 gr. It shoots much smoother than the Blazer. Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 EWWWWWWWWWW! There it is again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Debbie, Do you reload the 165's too, or do you ahve a 180 load worked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Singlestack, put HTML code on either side of the words you want to italicize. Click the "EDIT" icon on this post to see the HTML code used You'll learn mucho by knowing a little code <font size="10" color="red">GoodShooting</font> (Edited by TDean at 4:31 pm on Oct. 30, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Double-tap.. (Edited by TDean at 4:10 pm on Oct. 30, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 <font size="10" color="red">DOUBLE-TAP</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Kyle, I am currently only loading 180 gr. Montana Gold with about 5.3 of WAP. It gives me about a 175 power factor. I typically like a heavier bullet because it takes the snap out of the recoil. However, after shooting the factory 165 Winchesters I might play with different loads after I use up my 180's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Thirteen pages to find this thread! I recently bought a THE Accessories Extended Guiderod for the G34 and some ISMI Springs. The first thing I noticed it that the balance was appreciably more muzzle-heavy. Then when I got to the range, I spent the first three or four magazines chasing my front sight ---- It dipped way low when coming down from recoil. By the end of a couple hundred rounds, I was a happy camper --- the gun seems to shoot much flatter. I might have to order another for the G21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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