Chills1994 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Long story short, it was taking too much elbow grease to resize and load 9mm with the EGW/Lee Undersize die in Station # 1. All my powder measures have received the retrograde treatment. No need for the powder bar failsafe rod. So I moved the PM to the # 3 slot. The U die went to the #2 station. Then at the # 1 station, I installed a Dillon 9mm resizing/decapping die. It acted like a pre-re-sizer. I wet tumble first after decapping the brass, so these two sizing dies pictures below have their decapping rods removed. I checked, re-checked, and checked again the charges the PM was throwing. Everything checked okay, snd I always put my Mark I eyeball on the freshly charged case to check for powder before my fingers set a bullet on top of the case. Have you ever moved your Dillon PM to a different station besides # 2 (on a 650) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGA Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I load 45 and 9 mm on my 650's and always run my powder measures in station 3 because I have Lyman M-dies in station 2. Been doing that for about 15 years now, never had a problem. Even when I run a powder measure in station 2 (for loading .223 and .308) I always prefer a (double) return spring over the fail safe rod. Not saying it's better but it is what I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisenhow Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I've run the same setup in 9, 40, and 38 special for years. I did run the failsafe rod by rotating the powder measure. I've recently started processing my brass with a U-die on a Lee APP. I'm going to free up the station on my 650 for a bullet feeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Chills1994 said: Have you ever moved your Dillon PM to a different station besides # 2 (on a 650) ? I used the same setup until I got my bullet feeder. But, I kept the fail safe rod even after the fartknocker mod. The reason is that the press ran easier with only one spring on the PM. Try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) I have a second sizer die, without decapping pin, after the powder measure Edited July 24, 2020 by Daniele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On my 650 I moved the PM to station 3 not long after I got it simply to reduce the number of rotations a the case with powder in it would be exposed to. This dramatically reduced the powder "sloshing" issue because it has one less opportunity to slosh. I also retained the fail safe rod and simply rotated the PM to the right so the rod was still vertical. As a side note, I am also glad that I moved the the PM to station 3 after having a couple primers get lit off in station 2 while priming crimped primer pocket cases. Having the PM right above the priming situation in station 2 seems like a recipe for failure if a primer goes off and ignites the powder right above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Whew! Glad to hear I am not the only one that does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Chills1994 said: Whew! Glad to hear I am not the only one that does this. Nope I consider it almost a requirement for loading 9 major if you don't want a press full of sloshed powder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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