Tokarev Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 I shot ten rounds of WOLF 115 grain 9mm ammo over a CED chronograph this morning. Gun was a 5" Nowlin barrel shot about 10 feet from the front screen. I didn't write down the data but it was something like 16 fps S.D. and 1150 fps average, which is right where it should be. This is great shizzit for IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Shot Wolf 115s through 2 different Paras this morning - like 8" groups at 25 yards. Shot through an old Vanderburg Caspian 38 Super gun - ran perfect - shot less than 3"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobert1 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I shot some Wolf 9mm 115gr thru my 4"XD awhile back and it came in at 137.7 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 With all the stuff I've heard about WOLF ammo and exploding guns, I thought the guy would say, "What? You want to shoot WOLF over my chronograph? Everyone knowns that crap will break a sky screen!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 My friend Dwayne shot about 4 stages of a match today with Wolf 9mm in his P18 LDA - Production. Had 3 FTFire - no hit on the primer. I don't see how the ammo could have caused this but he finished the match with other ammo with no more problems??? Anyone have anything like this happen with Wolf? To my knowledge the gun has never previously had a single glitch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 My friend Dwayne shot about 4 stages of a match today with Wolf 9mm in his P18 LDA - Production. Had 3 FTFire - no hit on the primer. I don't see how the ammo could have caused this but he finished the match with other ammo with no more problems??? Anyone have anything like this happen with Wolf? To my knowledge the gun has never previously had a single glitch... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm almost through my 2nd case of WOLF 9mm (shoot it through a reworked RIA 1911) and have had one dud primer. Other than that one turd, the ammo has been accurate and consistent for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmack Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 My department has been using Wolf Ammo for qualification for the last two years. We have fired approximately 20,000 rounds of 180 gr. 40 cal. with only two malfunctions(bad pimers). Not bad for $54.00 a thousand shiped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 please please please tell me where I can get loaded 180gr 40 S&W for $54 a thousand delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmack Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Law Enforcement Agency price. If you are ordering for an agency you can get it directly from Wolf Ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 (edited) Besides the LOW pricing, you might consider buying it in lots of 50,000 to 1/2 million rounds at a time. Edited November 10, 2005 by Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 since i work for our local sheriffs office, i get the LEO price on the wolf ammo. ive never had any trouble with FTFs in my glock. though i believe in my factory 34, it chronos closer to 150PF.. CCI blazer are about 137, and WWB ammo is in between 140 and 150... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 since i work for our local sheriffs office, i get the LEO price on the wolf ammo.ive never had any trouble with FTFs in my glock. though i believe in my factory 34, it chronos closer to 150PF.. CCI blazer are about 137, and WWB ammo is in between 140 and 150... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A 150 PF with a 115 grain bullet is pretty hot for factory ammo. I've shot Federal +P+ that didn't go that fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 A 150 PF with a 115 grain bullet is pretty hot for factory ammo. Maybe out of a carbine............... I can't see 1375 fps out of a pistol with WWB. None of the WWB I have ever chronoed out of any pistol (including Glocks) even broke 140 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspruance Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I shot some of the Wolf 9mm in my G34. I really liked the quick recoil pulse. I decided to pull one of the bullets and weigh the powder charge to try to reload close to their spec. I got a huge suprise, the charge only weighed 3.0 gr. WWB powder charge is about 5.3 gr. and my Tite Group load id 4.6 gr. Anyone have any idea what kind of super fast powder this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 I shot some of the Wolf 9mm in my G34. I really liked the quick recoil pulse. I decided to pull one of the bullets and weigh the powder charge to try to reload close to their spec. I got a huge suprise, the charge only weighed 3.0 gr. WWB powder charge is about 5.3 gr. and my Tite Group load id 4.6 gr. Anyone have any idea what kind of super fast powder this is? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You'd think that with all the complaints about WOLF being dirty, the charge would have been 10 grains of some super slow powder. You didn't weigh a bullet, did you? One of these days I want to pull ten rounds and weigh the components and compare them for consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 A 150 PF with a 115 grain bullet is pretty hot for factory ammo. Maybe out of a carbine............... I can't see 1375 fps out of a pistol with WWB. None of the WWB I have ever chronoed out of any pistol (including Glocks) even broke 140 PF. power factor is bullet weight times velocity /1000 for a 115 grain bullet to make 150 power factor its gotta go 1304.35 fps...not 1375( 1375 would give approx 158 pf). another thing to note is i said BETWEEN 140 and 150 pf...141 power factor is between them..and thats where my last batch of white box went...when the gun was newer, the walmart value packs went 1290 fps from my glock 34. the winchester +p+ stuff made major at 172 power factor in my Glock..this was the LEO 127 SXT +P+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 A 150 PF with a 115 grain bullet is pretty hot for factory ammo. Maybe out of a carbine............... I can't see 1375 fps out of a pistol with WWB. None of the WWB I have ever chronoed out of any pistol (including Glocks) even broke 140 PF. power factor is bullet weight times velocity /1000 for a 115 grain bullet to make 150 power factor its gotta go 1304.35 fps...not 1375( 1375 would give approx 158 pf). another thing to note is i said BETWEEN 140 and 150 pf...141 power factor is between them..and thats where my last batch of white box went...when the gun was newer, the walmart value packs went 1290 fps from my glock 34. the winchester +p+ stuff made major at 172 power factor in my Glock..this was the LEO 127 SXT +P+ Pardon me for the typo of a 7 instead of a 0. My error. I know how to figure power factor. I would still like to see off the shelf WWB make 1290 out of any 5" gun. Even Winchester data states velocity at 1190. If it did make 1290, you got a box of ammo that was the exception to the norm or your chrono was giving false readings. Guess your 127 +P+ was hitting 1355 fps? If it's your duty ammo, tests have shown the RA9TP jacket separates from the core quite frequently (as does Rem Golden Sabre) going through windshields. I was LE (county and muni) for 20 yrs including swat and range instructor. Did a lot of research on duty ammo. Just for your info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oct_97 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 My department has been using Wolf Ammo for qualification for the last two years. We have fired approximately 20,000 rounds of 180 gr. 40 cal. with only two malfunctions(bad pimers). Not bad for $54.00 a thousand shiped. I called them last week, they are now quoting $184.00 per thousand, delivered, in lots of 10,000, for departments. A 150 PF with a 115 grain bullet is pretty hot for factory ammo. Maybe out of a carbine............... I can't see 1375 fps out of a pistol with WWB. None of the WWB I have ever chronoed out of any pistol (including Glocks) even broke 140 PF. You are right, I chronoed WWB out of my Kel Tec Sub 2000 at 1350 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 white box barely makes minor out of my open guns, what are you guys talking about with power factors in the 140's a 115gr at 1350 is over 150 pf. I have no clue how they are getting numbers like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've chronographed winchester 147 gr JHP (XSUB9) out of a G34. I believe Winchester's literature states velocities about 950 fps. I measured just slightly above 1000 fps for a PF between 145 and 150. I've noticed that a lot of factory ammo goes a little faster than stated. (Or my chrono may be a little off, I guess.) Itchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmack Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) I called them last week, they are now quoting $184.00 per thousand, delivered, in lots of 10,000, for departments. The last order we did was in Aug. and we got the same price as stated above and we only ordered 2,000 rounds at that time. I've chronographed winchester 147 gr JHP (XSUB9) out of a G34. I believe Winchester's literature states velocities about 950 fps. I measured just slightly above 1000 fps for a PF between 145 and 150. I've noticed that a lot of factory ammo goes a little faster than stated. (Or my chrono may be a little off, I guess.) Itchy Most commercial reloading data is measured out a 4" barrel so if you are measuring it out of a 5" Glock 34 the velocities are going to be higher. Edited November 10, 2005 by Rmack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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