xpierrat Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I did a little search ( not very good at it ) and was looking for something that shows total time for each class/division I thought I saw it some where just cant remember where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 http://steelchallenge.com/classificationSystem.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpierrat Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Thanks, Zack I found that and I am trying my higher math skills to little avail... I thought I saw some where a list that for example for CO ....class D time 500min to 180 min C 179 min to 158 min B 157 min to 132mi ( just picking numbers for example ) and of course have it for every division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyman1876 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I believe this is what you're looking for. http://eastcoaststeelchampionship.com/scsagoaltimes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpierrat Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 BINGO Thanks tyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 WOW, thanks guys. This is good info. I had been doing it long hand a few times explaining it to some people. This is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyman1876 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 You got it. I have the link saved right in my phone. I reference it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpierrat Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 USPSA ought to add this link http://eastcoaststeelchampionship.com/scsagoaltimes.htm on the classification look up page It would be a big help to many at least till they change the peak time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, xpierrat said: USPSA ought to add this link http://eastcoaststeelchampionship.com/scsagoaltimes.htm on the classification look up page It would be a big help to many at least till they change the peak time. Are the peak times changing? In the draft of the new rules for steel challenge the peak times are listed as slower for PCC and RFRO than they are now. Significantly slower, like 5 or 6 seconds slower! Assumed these were the old numbers though. I know it says they may be re evaluated each year depending on the world shoot, but not only was I not really anticipating that to happen, but certainly not to slower times for classifications. PG 21 https://uspsa.org/document_library/2017/New SCSA Rule Book20170712.pdf Edited October 5, 2017 by Hammer002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The ones in the draft are old. What is on the web site is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photoracer Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 After the WSSC match every year they look at the peak scores and decide if they need to adjust the classification par times down more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliearms Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 David Snyder has his stuff together! Great match, thank you cards, time cheat sheets, the largest match in the country... The list goes on and on... I just hate it takes so long for me to get up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DES Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How are Peak Times determined? I have not seen how they arrive at these times and have been curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How are Peak Times determined? I have not seen how they arrive at these times and have been curious. The initial times were established by Phil Stader. I don’t know how he came up with the numbers though. Each year I review times for all tier II and III matches to see if we need to make adjustments. So far we have only modified RFRO and PCCO. We lowered those times because so many people were shooting times faster than the PST. I will be doing my annual review in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DES Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I thought there might be a formula involved? Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly636 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Y’all are welcome haha. Here is the peak times, what time you need to have for each class, and average string times. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 11/3/2017 at 12:06 PM, chilly636 said: Y’all are welcome haha. Here is the peak times, what time you need to have for each class, and average string times. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Are these peak times still good? I saw a USPSA facebook post yesterday about an article written by Steve Foster for the Front Sight magazine. Maybe I just read the article wrong, but you take your total stage time and divide it by the peak time....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly636 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes I believe these peak times are still good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, chilly636 said: Yes I believe these peak times are still good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk okay. Thank you! The coffee hasn't kicked in just yet, so let me see if I have this straight... If you were shooting carry optics and shot all 8 stages with a total time of 97 seconds even, then you would be a GM??? And if ...say...you shot all 8 stages...also in carry optics... with a total time of 105 seconds, then you would be a Master, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly636 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chills1994 said: okay. Thank you! The coffee hasn't kicked in just yet, so let me see if I have this straight... If you were shooting carry optics and shot all 8 stages with a total time of 97 seconds even, then you would be a GM??? And if ...say...you shot all 8 stages...also in carry optics... with a total time of 105 seconds, then you would be a Master, right? That's correct. The top portion is all the peak times for each stage and the totals that would make you each classification. The rest of the pages are each division with peak times and what on average you need per string to meet the classification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes I believe these peak times are still good. They are. We are reviewing them all now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, chilly636 said: That's correct. The top portion is all the peak times for each stage and the totals that would make you each classification. The rest of the pages are each division with peak times and what on average you need per string to meet the classification. Thank you sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 42 minutes ago, ZackJones said: They are. We are reviewing them all now though. Danke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 They are. We are reviewing them all now though. O well almost made GM in rfri,,,, I was that close - Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosters3 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 3:00 PM, Chills1994 said: Are these peak times still good? I saw a USPSA facebook post yesterday about an article written by Steve Foster for the Front Sight magazine. Maybe I just read the article wrong, but you take your total stage time and divide it by the peak time....? The exact opposite - you take the peak time and divide it by the stage time you shot. Let's say you are shooting 5 to Go with your rimfire rifle open. You shot a total of (4) strings totaling 14.00 seconds. The peak time for RFRO is 11.00 seconds. The math is (11.00/14.00) = 78.57% and you shot an A classification on this stage. Clear as mud? I monitor Facebook and email more than Enos. If you need anything - don't hesitate to reach out Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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