Coated Lead Bullets Similar to Older Bayou 124 TCG

[RickT]

The new Bayou 124 TCG bullets are almost identical to the Acme bullets.  These are fine in our 9mm 1911s, but have to be loaded very short (1.05") in my HK P2000 carry gun.  The original Bayou molds had a softer transition from base to ogive and could be loaded quite a bit longer.  There must be another manufacturer who uses a mold similar to the Bayou original mold.  Any ideas?

[CPD7119]

SNS Casting has their 125gr conical nose that are slightly longer at the base. Might be worth a look 

[MemphisMechanic]

M&Ps have short chambers. This one was only .005-.010" longer than a Tanfoglio/CZ which has  the shortest barrel out there.

 

Black Bullets International's 125 TC will plunk and spin in it at 1.150" I had to load Acme 124 RNs at 1.100" to pass plunk in the same barrel.

 

I highly recommend the BBI 125 for guys with short chambers who like long OALs. You should be able to hit at least 1.125-1.135" in absolutely everything.

 

Edited August 29, 2017 by MemphisMechanic

[IDescribe]

Bayou has "new" 124gr TCG?  They're not on the website that I can find.  Just the 120 TCG.

[RickT]

On 8/29/2017 at 2:26 AM, IDescribe said:

Bayou has "new" 124gr TCG?  They're not on the website that I can find.  Just the 120 TCG.

No, the 124 is the old recipe which actually runs reasonably well in my HK.  I'd have to load the new TCG to 1.05" which is ridiculous.  The target attached are for both the old 124TCG and the 124RN.  I make no claim that the 1.14" OAL for the RN load is optimum, but look at the difference in the groups.  I was shooting from a decent rest, but I'm not much of a rest shooter, don't have great eyes, etc.  I should have warmed up first, but the TCG target was the first one I shot so there are some strays.  The RN target is all over the place.  That's why I'll hunt down a supplier using the older mold.

[gcso12]

On 8/29/2017 at 2:39 AM, MemphisMechanic said:

M&Ps have short chambers. This one was only .005-.010" longer than a Tanfoglio/CZ which has  the shortest barrel out there.

 

Black Bullets International's 125 TC will plunk and spin in it at 1.150" I had to load Acme 124 RNs at 1.100" to pass plunk in the same barrel.

 

I highly recommend the BBI 125 for guys with short chambers who like long OALs. You should be able to hit at least 1.125-1.135" in absolutely everything.

 

If you have experience with it, how does the SNS 125 Conical compare to the BBI?

[MemphisMechanic]

It’s probably the same mold. Same with blue bullet’s 125. There aren’t that many bullet molds / profiles out there.

 

Any tapered cone profile should work great.

 

Edited November 27, 2017 by MemphisMechanic

[Darrell]

The 120 TCG by bayou bullets are more accurate than the 124 TCG's in my testing. They have to be loaded shorter. 1.030 to 1.060. Currently running at 1.060 with 3.8 gr of Tightgroup. Haven't tested them in my open gun yet. At 15 yds this load will put 10 shots into a 1.5 in dot in most of my 9mm's.

For Major 9mm my powder suggestion is Autocomp or CFE. I use Autocomp.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Darrell

[GOF]

I have used the 124 Bayou TCG for years in my two M&P 9mms. I recently got some of the new 120 TCG heads. I loaded them exactly the same (powder, OAL, crimp) as the 124 and they performed the same... and to the same POI. I see no difference.