DEP44 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I'm looking for opinions: I also have a 1050 setup in 308 with Mr Bulletfeeder. It looks like I can change the 1050 from 308 to 45 by swapping the plastic thingy at the bottom of the case feeder tube and the tool head. I also need to buy the expander (would I need to run the swager?) and a powder activator, but a powder funnel is also included with the 45acp Bulletfeeder conversion kit. I would have to get the large spiral tube with the conversion kit as well. Adding up a 1050 tool head and Mr Bulletfeeder conversionkit in 45acp adds up to >$400. Or I could just buy a Mr Bulletfeeder for my XL650 for $470. The 1050 is a dedicated 308 press and on the 650 I load 9mm, 38sp, 357m, 44m and 45cap. What would you do? For who loads 45 on a 1050, do you use the funnel from the bulletfeeder or the Dillon powder activator? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingSomeone Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I just put a bullet feeder in my 650 and love it. If you get tired of switching from large to small primer size on your 650 you could dedicate that to small primers then run 45 and 308 on your 1050. The swagger would help you know if a small pistol primed 45 case sneaks into your press so I would run it. What caliber do you shoot the most of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 If the presses are close enough share the bullet feeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 I like the small primer pocket detection option! I shoot 45 the most, but in all honesty none of my quantities qualify for anything more than a 550 (which I have too), currently probably 150-200 rounds per week for 45. To me it's all about comfort. Just loaded 400 rounds of 308, which with prepped brass I can do sitting with the handle in the short position - no push to seat a primer. I don't mind changing calibers on the 650, only thing I don't like about it is swapping the primer punch. A bulletfeeder on the 650 would not work with 38/357/44 anyways, just 9mm. Remains the question of the powder activator vs the Mr Bulletfeeder funnel. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino2212 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Why would a bulletfeeder not work for 38/357/44 on the 650 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 That's my assumption since there are no conversion kits available for Mr Bulletfeeder. Are you saying those calibers are close enough to 9mm and 45 to work? I would have thought if that were the case it would have been advertised as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino2212 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 For 357/38 you can use the 9 mm set , i know this because some one i know uses 357 ( 158 grain ) bullets to load for 9x19 . I only think you maybe have to use the Dillon powder funnel but don't know this for sure . And i think 44 is close enough to 45 to be working to , i think i will see Bjorn from DAA at practice Sunday so i will ask him than . I'll let you know what he tells me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thank you! And with that I'm seeing a 3rd option. I think I'm going to dismantle my 223 tool head (for now) for the 1050 and repurpose it for 45. I loaded 223 about 5 years ago and my stash isn't going to run out anytime soon. Then I might as well get a 2nd bulletfeeder. It looks like the new type hangs on the case feeder and I'm hoping there is room enough to hang it on the 1050 without removing the old bulletfeeder. For 9 and maybe the rest I can just hang it on the 650 case feeder. Or just try it in 45 on the 650 first.... Btw Tino..... Didn't you use to hang out on vuwa.net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino2212 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yes thats correct i still am , how do you know that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddKS Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 You don't need a tool head for the 1050 if you use Hornady lock rings instead of the Dillon so that your adjustments are repeatable when you remove and reinstall the dies. You so need a powder die for each caliber. I am loading 6 calibers on one tool head on my 1050. Swapping the dies takes very little time. I use the Mr. Bullet Feeder funnel for 45acp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 44 is too narrow to activate the MBF using the 45 adapter. I made a small ring from a case and it works the bullet drop for the 44 bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks guys. I don't load 44 in large quantities anymore, but making it work would be fun. Tino, I used to be a member there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 Got the 1050 45acp conversion parts ordered and a Mr. B. conversion kit. I happened to be at Ace today and I also got a bracket, flange and pipe for the 650 as the hint of sharing seems attractive . Swapping the feeder is now super easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 So I'm halfway setting up my new 1050 tool head for 45 and I'm noticing that when the powder measure clears the brass part of the bullet dropper by a hair, the tube of the powder measure rides against the primer alarm. At the end of the stroke it lifts the lid a bit. is there anything I'm missing or doing wrong? I don't believe it's going to cause issues, it just kind of bothers me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Found out that the new spring tube adapter doesn't fit the old unit and that there is no nose guide plate in the conversion kit. I hope Rick can help out or I'll have to buy a complete unit after all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Found out that the new spring tube adapter doesn't fit the old unit and that there is no nose guide plate in the conversion kit. I hope Rick can help out or I'll have to buy a complete unit after all.... Damm could you swap calipers on the old kiss version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Yeah, I bought it in 223 and Got the conversion kit for 308 through Rick with the new 308 dropper. Does the new model not need a nose guide block anymore? It's the little insert that tips an upside down bullet sideways so it can be flipped by the ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 The current models have an adjustable nose guide. It uses shims to adjust depth and it slides in or out radially for correct position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 Right, found this video explaining it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLAGoyvlGs The inserts I have are similar in function but they start with a small slit that only works with rifle bullet tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Update: I called Rick and he shipped me the correct nose guide plate for 45 - and a 2nd one for 9/38. We also swapped the connecting part between the collator and the spring tube. What a guy! I tried the DA powder funnel, but it seems to stick a bit, so I the swapped back to the Dillon activator. The expander/swage combo is doing a good job, no tipped over bullets no matter how fast I go. Edited August 30, 2016 by DEP44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 On 8/6/2016 at 0:59 PM, Smeeg said: Damm could you swap calipers on the old kiss version? Yup. I run 45, 40 and 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 And to confirm that the 9mm conversion works for .357 Mag like a charm: This is with the .40 nose guide (as per Rick works for 9 and 40) and using the Dillon powder funnel. I'm not sure if/how the DAA 9mm funnel would work. Dropping 21.5gr WW296 this is fast enough to feed a hungry Coonan (and others). I'm going ahead and get a 2nd dropper for my 9mm toolhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishoesel Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 On 7/25/2016 at 4:23 AM, DEP44 said: I'm looking for opinions: I also have a 1050 setup in 308 with Mr Bulletfeeder. It looks like I can change the 1050 from 308 to 45 by swapping the plastic thingy at the bottom of the case feeder tube and the tool head. I also need to buy the expander (would I need to run the swager?) and a powder activator, but a powder funnel is also included with the 45acp Bulletfeeder conversion kit. I would have to get the large spiral tube with the conversion kit as well. Adding up a 1050 tool head and Mr Bulletfeeder conversionkit in 45acp adds up to >$400. Or I could just buy a Mr Bulletfeeder for my XL650 for $470. The 1050 is a dedicated 308 press and on the 650 I load 9mm, 38sp, 357m, 44m and 45cap. What would you do? For who loads 45 on a 1050, do you use the funnel from the bulletfeeder or the Dillon powder activator? Thanks! You can use the MBF unit you have now, and move it over to the other press. You will need the 45ACP conversion kit, the large diameter feed spring, and the large pistol collator plate. (I think that one comes with the conversion kit) Then simply use the 45acp dropper on your toolhead, and attach that to the collator using the large feed spring. You can get enough belling using the existing powder funnel that comes with the Dillon, or you can use the expander funnel that comes with the MBF conversion kit for 45ACP. I'm currently using the Dillon one, but might change over to the MBF funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yeah, a few things were incompatible between the old and new model MBF: The nose guide plates are shims on the new model and the adapter that hooks up the spring tube to the collater is different. Mr Bulletfeeder himself (Rick) set me up with the correct parts and it's working great. I tried the MBF funnel/exapander for 45 but found it sticking a bit and swapped back to the Dillon funnel and expanding on the swager die. No tipping bullets so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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