dirtypool40 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 OK guys, enough of the wide open hosing. How fast do you shoot this? (For clarification it's A left, only A, and A right). I like it and I think it's a good test of your "real" draw as well. You have to aim at a point not just something brown. When I had my eyes working I shot this on Amoebas, a couple of times. It's a good workout and keeps you honest. Give me some times, hell run it as a VP if you like. What are the draws / reloads. Are the splits staying consistent with the tranistions? 10y? 15y? 20y? Gear and class please. The only one I have any idea right now is for ten. I think I was in clean around 2.7??? on amoebas, around 5.5 for a VP. Draws got quick, and to the left target I was down around 1.05. Right target I was a little more careful around 1.10. Reloads were in line. When (notice I did not say "IF") I get my eyes back I am going to work the hell out of this and will post current / specific times for all distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 5, 2005 Author Share Posted May 5, 2005 Been playing around with minor factory ammo in the new open gun while I wait on my eyes. This is my first attempt at learning to shoot Open, but I figure as I start to shoot better than I did with my standard gun, I'll be making progress. Shot this yesterday at 10 & 15. 10y I was getting draws around 1.15 and 6 shot runs around 2.5. So, I guess, at least for now, no great improvement for going to the dot. 15y, things were a little slower, around 1.35 for the draw and around 3 seconds total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 I'd never bother with a mag well funnel, since I am not going to train with gear I'd never use for real. With that limitation, 1.5 seconds is a really fast reload and hit of the A zone at 10 yds. I made up for it with .80 second draws and hits, tho. If you can react, draw from surrender, using a "limited" gun hit the A at 10 yds, swap mags, hit it again, under 2.5 seconds, you are cooking pretty good. If you truly can average 2.0 seconds, you are a real whiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Sixx I gotta admit you got me a little confused. What thread are you replying to? Are you hitting .80's to this array? If so you ARE smoking!!! Actually you sound like you are teasing me about another thread entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Ok, bad eye and all I got out yesterday and shot these at the end of my first practice session back, and set some new goals. Standard => At 10y I was hitting between 2.5 and 3.0 regularly, clean and once I got warmed up draws hovered right around 1.0. New goal is to shoot this consistently in 2.5 average. Standard =>At 15y I was around 2.75 to 3.5. Draws were in the 1.05-1.20 range. I did have three good runs in a row of 2.77-3, 3.17 clean, and 2.82-1. New goal is to shoot this in 3.0 average, nice and smooth. One caveat, this is on the amoebas, so they are a hair smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I ran a vice prez the other day at 10 yards in 3.53 with good hits....My reload was actually faster than my draw and I got it on video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 on the partials?!?! HOLY CRAP!!!! wwof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 hahaha shitski....not on the partials....wrong thread. It is kinda funny though I had all A's on the center target so it probably could be done that fast on the partials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Duuuude. Don't do that, I already put all my gear up for sale!!!! No worries, I know it COULD be done, but doing it smoothly as an average, that would be something else. Yes, if you shoot all A's it don't matter, but those white things tend to distract and demand a certain amount of respect . Still it is smokin'. My best on the open target 10y VP was a couple months back (before the eye thing) @ 3.88 down three, standard gear. I'm looking to get 4.0 average and smooth. On the partials though, I'll take a nice smooth 5.0 VP when I get my eye back. Right now 6 shot runs, no reload are running around 2.6 ish, so I figure with a little work, and a fresh eyeball I MIGHT be able to get the 5.0 VP. I'll keep posting as things develope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 I got out yesterday and played with the Open gun. It's running fine and I am breaking it in with a monster 11# spring in it. It flips like a limited gun, but I can see the dot. Still can't even SEE the friggin' sights on my standard gun. Anyway, I set it up and asked my buddy Mike to run a VP @ 10y. He's a Limited M. He was already warmed up and snapped off a 5.04 -4. 1.2 draw, and a 1.32 reload. I can beat him on transitions but this guy has no fear on splits. Not to be out done, I strapped on the shiny new open gun, cranked the dot all the way up to "flambe" and gave it my best shot. 4.51-3. 1.15 draw, 1.13 reload. I draw and load faster than this with my standard gun, so I am hoping to approach this once I get my eye back. Great, drill though, can't sleep walk through this one. Who's trying this???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberkid Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 I finally set this up today and gave it a try. I ran a VP on this array about 20 times. Due to the target stands I use I had to set the no shoots in front of the shoot targets by about 9 inches thus giving me less actual room around the edges. Bad news, this drill is actually really tough to get speed going without tagging no shoots. Good news, I shot fairly well overall. My best run was a 6.70 clean. Of the 20 runs I did I only picked up 3 no shoots and 4 C hits. The rest was all A's. I had 2 other runs under 7 seconds and all runs were under 8. Draws around 1.40 and reloads around 1.25. I know that compared to the rest of you this is ultra slow, but considering the points I wasnt too unhappy. ohh, BTW C class Production, G34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yup, it's definately a drill you can't "sleep walk" through. It's my turn to set up the local match and we are shooting a 10y VP on it this weekend. I'm not THAT mean, we are shooting a 28 round "crambo" also, so there will be fun. I also got out and shot a few runs across this at 15y, but only 6, not a full VP. For draw and 2 ea I was running around 2.9. I think my best was a 2.66 and worst a 3.2. I like this, it do make ya pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 there's no "array" in a draw and hit. there's one target, and one shot. .80 second is getting with it, but with a speed rig, facing the target, and hands at sides start, a man who works at it can average under .70 second, for A's at 10 yds. I could average under .65 when I was warmed up ,but I'd get half of the hits in the C zone, some in the D. I could keep them in the A at 5 yds, tho, and that's all I really cared about. What mattered a lot more to me was getting A's at 10 ft, in .90 second, from underneath a shirt. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 there's no "array" in a draw and hit. there's one target, and one shot. sixx, I'm not sure what you are talking about. This thread isn't about a draw and shoot one on a single target. Read the whole thread...from the top...you should then see where the thread is about shooting an array of targets...clearly defined (even has a picture). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 What mattered a lot more to me was getting A's at 10 ft, in .90 second, from underneath a shirt. :-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What matters more to me is the time you get actually shooting the drill DP posted. You can wear a bhurka while you do it for all I care, but shoot the drill and post your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Or just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalmas Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I added this stage to a local match this weekend. 10m with partials. Virginia count! Run as VP. Standard - minor - 5.83 - 11A 1C 58 points - HF 9,9485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberkid Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I have no intention of jacking this thread or becoming confrontational, but I gotta say this ... "any man who works at it can average under .70" ????? I gotta disagree. There are some phenominal shooters out there who can get under .70, I really doubt anyone will even lay claim to AVERAGE that. I also doubt that there are more than a very small handful who have ever done a .70 while in control and seeing what is nessecary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Yeah, but, sixx said it's true. I don't know what planet you're from, Kid, but if sixx says it's so then that's good enough for me. Tell 'em sixx! Take 'em to school! - Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Yeah, but, sixx said it's true. I don't know what planet you're from, Kid, but if sixx says it's so then that's good enough for me. Tell 'em sixx! Take 'em to school!- Gabe <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep! 1) I read it on the internet, therefore, 2) It must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberkid Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Sorry Gabe, I dunno what I was thinking questioning these universally known truths of mankind. I just like to throw that crazy stuff out there sometimes to see if people are paying attention. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EricW Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Ran it this afternoon at about 11 yds with my Limited gun: Got it down to around 3.7-3.8 ish and usually 2 or 3 pts down. Occasionally clean. Guess that puts me at barely smoldering 7.1 to 7.2 HF. But hey, at least I left room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 with a speed rig and hands at sides, warmed up, I used to average under .65 second, for All rds in the C or better at 10 yds, and over half in the A. I never could slow down enough to keep them in the A, enough to make up for the loss in time, anyway. Nobody shoots Leatherslaps anymore, or you'd know that I'm right. :-) Hell, Robbie claimed .80 second averages, in the A at 10 yds, from surrender start and with a limited rig, about 10 years ago. Where you guys been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Man I want some of what your smokin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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