Indexing from the draw problems

[3djedi]

When I draw my sti 2011 style gun the sights seem to come up misaligned frequently. I've tried different grips (reduced and undercut plastic grip and a CK steel grip) but same issue. I've tried adjusting my safari land race holster to different angles but doesn't seem to help.

Has anyone else had this issue with a 2011? Is it possible that a 2011 grip just doesn't fit my hand properly?

Any suggestions?

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[Maximis228]

Are you coming from a different grip angle platform? I had this issue going from a Glock to a 2011.

It took 3ish months of hard daily dry fire to sort it out.

[Hi-Power Jack]

coming from a different grip angle platform?

It took 3 months of hard daily dry fire to sort it out.

Maximis hit it on the head ... +1

[nickbfishn]

I'm in the same boat. I think only practice can sort the issue

[CodyAxon]

How much have you dry fired with that gun? I would suggest doing more until the problem is fixed.

[3djedi]

Dry fire 15 min a day for probably a year with the 2011

The front sight seems to come up on the right side of the notch, not centered.

[Jake Di Vita]

I think you need to be harder on yourself in dry fire. When you move the gun to a new target and it stops the sights should be directly aligned. Every time. It certainly is not the gun or holster angle at fault here.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Jake Di Vita

[3djedi]

Hmmm.......Just threw on a glock, which I haven't fired in over a year, and it indexes perfectly on the draw. Weird.

[3djedi]

I think you need to be harder on yourself in dry fire. When you move the gun to a new target and it stops the sights should be directly aligned. Every time. It certainly is not the gun or holster angle at fault here.

Target to target transition index is fine. It's just on the initial draw. The sights are misaligned slightly.

[pointerman1967]

I would slow down the dry fire. You aren't going to be able to get a proper grip at the same speed on the new platform if you have been shooting a Glock for years. Get to know what a proper grip feels like when the sites are aligned and practice just grabbing the gun. Do that like a 1000 times and your sites will align on the draw.

[Jake Di Vita]

I think you need to be harder on yourself in dry fire. When you move the gun to a new target and it stops the sights should be directly aligned. Every time. It certainly is not the gun or holster angle at fault here.

Target to target transition index is fine. It's just on the initial draw. The sights are misaligned slightly.

You move the gun to a new target when you draw. It still applies. It's something you are doing. Do some draws, make minor corrections until everything lines up correctly, then hold those corrections as you speed up.

[3djedi]

Will do. I think I will start at a super-slow draw motion and work from there and see how it goes.

[Jake Di Vita]

I don't have a ton of success by moving super slow. If I was having an issue with indexing on my draw, I'd do a draw at probably 75% speed with my eyes closed and when I open my eyes take note of what the sights look like. Then I'll reholster and draw at the same speed with eyes closed trying to adjust that finishing position so that when I open my eyes everything is aligned. When everything is humming along nicely, I speed up and try to maintain the result.

[Sandbagger123]

if you index right on with a glock you might try putting on a arched main spring housing .

[wav3rhythm]

Reps and working on my grip helped me with this!

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[3djedi]

I dry fired tonight without a timer and guess what? Probably 95% perfect indexing. I think I've been chasing the par-time so long that I'm tense and rushing constantly. I wasn't going 100% speed either. I started just trying to relax and just focusing on technique and a good grip at maybe 75% speed as Jake Da Vita suggested. I pushed it up to 90% (still without the timer) and no problems.

I learned a valuable lesson that chasing extreme speed dry-fire par times is not always productive. Sometimes practice without the timer is good. Or maybe use the start beep but skip the par-time. Thanks guys!