chuckpetree Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Wondering if anyone has used cfe pistol yet? Just wondering characteristics of the powder basically. I have some 125 gr jhp's coming to work up some 9mm loads. Basically it was what was available locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raydee38 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I am using it with some Berry's 124gr bullets and I am having a problem that others are too. At the max load it looks like the charge is not enough to expand the brass enough to seal the chamber. I am getting a lot of burn marks on the cases and a very dirty chamber. So far I have loaded to 5.5gr and I still have the same problem. I have been reading that guys are going to 5.8gr so I am going to start bumping the charge up until I see that the brass is expanding or I am getting some over pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Search cfe in this sub forum. Multiple pages of info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aandabooks Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Currently working on some .357 Sig major loads. Lighting them off with Fed SPM and getting good results. Had previously used it in .38 Super when I had one. Good results there too. I would guess that it might be a little too slow for light 9mm loads and that is why people are getting the reults that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 In major loads it's similar to WAC. Even uses the same charge weights. About 7.2 or so with a 124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruleyoutoo1911 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i had to use 4.4 Grains of CFE Pistol to make PF out of my CZ 75 with 125 gr moly bullets. I actually liked this load quite a bit, nice and accurate and fairly soft shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 In major loads it's similar to WAC. Even uses the same charge weights. About 7.2 or so with a 124 I've been using WAC and CFE for over a year and a half. I get the same velocity out of the same charge weights. (I don't even have to change the settings on the powder drop) but even at the same 172 PF, I prefer the feel of the WAC to the CFE, not really sure why, maybe not as harsh, but my logical mind tells me they should be the same (Issac Newton influence here), but my non logical side tells me no. Maybe I'm talking myself into seeing a difference between the two? Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Since we are in the topic of CFE-P, For those that shoot 9mm major with CFE-P, do you find it extremely dirty? I was doing a load work up, shot 25 rounds of it and it got the comp extremely dirty, dirtier than the 90 rounds of HS-6 I shot of 38 Super. Took me a while to clean that comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I only use Autocomp or CFE for 9 major but don't think either are excessively dirty. At most I wipe the outside of the comp off with a rag. Every once in a while I'll poke around down into the ports and while it's black, I don't notice any kind of buildup that would need to be cleaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) I haven't had a chance to try it again in my Trubor .38 Super but I gave it a try last night in my XDm 5.25 steel gun. This load was so soft and flat shooting I started laughing! Midway is selling Federal 95 gr. JSPs at giveaway prices! I probably shouldn't have revealed that... A little sooty, but not bad. Bullet: Federal 95 gr. JSP Powder: Hodgdon CFE-P 6.0 grs. Primer: Federal Small Pistol LOAL: 1.055 Case: Federal 9mm Edited February 25, 2016 by pbcaster45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckpetree Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Used 88gr jhp Remingtons in my steel gun years ago in front of w's and federal small pistol magnum primers. The witness 9x21mm with 3 port comp was actually recoiling down, due to the expelled gases and lack of recoil. Put on a hell of a light show at night as well.Thanks for all the info guys. Looks like between 4.6 and 5.0 with a conservative oal seems to shoot pretty good for most after further researching. Time to make some loads and test after healing. Good starting point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-blaster Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) My best accurate loads with 9 mm Hornady 124 XTP. All loads were tested in GLOCK 17 Gen 4 pistol in temperature range 45-50'F. These loads are replication of Hornady American Gunner 9mm 124 XTP +p Ammo. Powder:CFE Pistol 5.5 grain Case:Fed/Win/CBC/Perfecta. Primer:CCI 500 COAL :1.073"(1.067"min) Velocity :1180fps I also use Titegroup powder with the same dies settings. 124 XTP + 4.1 gr.Titegroup Case:Fed/Win/CBC/Perfecta COAL:1.073" Velocity :1186fps I would recommend to start your reloads with 0.2 grain below my loads, especially if you use different primer and cartridge length. Edited March 5, 2016 by Master-blaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW39 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Good afternoon all, Was happy to see this thread is pretty close to what I am looking for? Loading 5.1 gr of CFE-P on a dillion 550 and I set the C.O.L. to 1.151 (+/- 0.003) with 124gr RN Plated from CMJ, I use range brass I pickup besides my own, but clean, check and sort the brass by head stamp. So I was loading to the above referenced load with RP brass, when I ran short (only about a dozen left) of RP brass and so I grabbed the box with FC brass off the shelf. Well being the geek that I am I ran five rounds and checked them, what the heck, they are running 1.144 - 1.148 oal, now, I went back and double check the loads from previous with the RP's and they were all right on at 1.150 - 1.152. So this being a new load for me that I am working on, brought up a red flag and I am worried about the change in col for over pressure, besides wondering why the case is making such a change in the COL, the only thing I can figure is the weight of the brass is making a looser fit with the head and sliding in more. I kind a confirmed this when I went back and grab 5 RP brass cases from the box (only about 15 in the box) they ran at 1.151 & 1.152, thus its a case thing on the OAL. But I am wondering what effect this will have on my loads for over pressure. Input is welcomed this has got me confused...... Edited March 6, 2016 by SW39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Mixed headstamp brass (what I use) frequently gives this little fluctuation. I'm not familiar with loading using CFE-P but if your load is nowhere near max, I wouldn't worry about a .006 to .010 variation in OAL. If the chrono says the velocity isn't fluctuating more than you're comfortable with and it shoots tight groups through your gun... run it. Note, again, that all of that presumes that you weren't nearing a +P spec or just plain overpressured load at the time, and that your load isn't compressing your powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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