MrPostman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Maybe a price cut since the other barrels should be cheaper. Maybe $100 to $150 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have not......... I will take a look at some though. You use them? I was thinking of trying some 200g BB. And maybe some zero FMJ's... Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk I'm working my way through 3,000 of them - they shoot good. Going to try some Zeros too at some point when I'm running low on the SNS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 What's the NLG stand for? Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 To be honest it WAS a bit of a letdown at first. When I first started to read about the Apeiro, I'd never heard of Schuemann (I'm not a 1911 guy), but sources seemed to consider it a plus or even the determining factor. When I got mine I noticed they did not look like the pictures I'd seen, so I got a bit worried. In reality, I was just assuming I got inferior barrels. I got to play with them last Sunday and they seem to work well. Unless I would have an opportunity to shoot them side by side (Schuemann vs non-Schuemann) there is no way to tell which is better. Schuemann seems to have a good reputation. I just have them sighted in, maybe next time I'll shoot a few rounds from a rest, which doesn't really say much as some barrels simply don't like some projectiles. On top of that I reload using mixed brass, which doesn't contribute to bulls eye accuracy. I left the range satisfied and happy. For the first time ever I was able to shoot in some kind of cadence and hit my 5.5" target at 25y. Before I had to find the targets again through the sights; I'm not a racer by nature. At this point I wouldn't exchange the barrels if it was an option. Btw... I paid 2250/ea but the price was not different from the previous Schuemann price. Picture from the day I got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Certainly less appealing, but honestly from my understanding STI was not taking orders for the Apeiro for a while simply because they couldn't get barrels from Schuemann. A local competition smith who also like to use Schuemann also mentioned that it's really difficult actually getting barrels from them (I think he mentioned that he'd had orders in for nearly a year once before they all just showed up at once). With that in mind, it may have come down to either discontinuing the model or finding a new barrel supplier. They always say that most of the accurate in a barrel comes from how its fit rather than the brand, and it's the same people fitting them, so I'd personally still be OK with an Apeiro with the new barrels. That said, had I bought one EXPECTING an AET and not gotten it, it would admittedly be a bit of a letdown. The fitting is the same bec it wa built by sti but the barrels will never be and the schuemann aet is far more superior than the sti korean made barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 What's the NLG stand for? Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk No lube groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 To be honest it WAS a bit of a letdown at first. When I first started to read about the Apeiro, I'd never heard of Schuemann (I'm not a 1911 guy), but sources seemed to consider it a plus or even the determining factor. When I got mine I noticed they did not look like the pictures I'd seen, so I got a bit worried. In reality, I was just assuming I got inferior barrels. I got to play with them last Sunday and they seem to work well. Unless I would have an opportunity to shoot them side by side (Schuemann vs non-Schuemann) there is no way to tell which is better. Schuemann seems to have a good reputation. I just have them sighted in, maybe next time I'll shoot a few rounds from a rest, which doesn't really say much as some barrels simply don't like some projectiles. On top of that I reload using mixed brass, which doesn't contribute to bulls eye accuracy. I left the range satisfied and happy. For the first time ever I was able to shoot in some kind of cadence and hit my 5.5" target at 25y. Before I had to find the targets again through the sights; I'm not a racer by nature. At this point I wouldn't exchange the barrels if it was an option. Btw... I paid 2250/ea but the price was not different from the previous Schuemann price. Picture from the day I got them. Good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) I don't find the AET to be any better. I find it to be more finicky about feeding and bullets that it shoots accurately. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Edited October 16, 2015 by 3djedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't find the AET to be any better. I find it to be more finicky about feeding and bullets that it shoots accurately. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk My AET eats everything, lead, molly coated, copper coated, and fmj's and it even eats BULDGED cases bec its fluted chamber. No need to put the brass in the Lee buldge buster when using an aet barrel hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't find the AET to be any better. I find it to be more finicky about feeding and bullets that it shoots accurately. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk My AET eats everything, lead, molly coated, copper coated, and fmj's and it even eats BULDGED cases bec its fluted chamber. No need to put the brass in the Lee buldge buster when using an aet barrel hehe My Apeiro 9mm AET was my first STI. I ran some loads w Xtreme bullets that shot 4" at 25 yards out of my Glock through it. Couldn't get 4" at 7 yards. I was pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't find the AET to be any better. I find it to be more finicky about feeding and bullets that it shoots accurately. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk My AET eats everything, lead, molly coated, copper coated, and fmj's and it even eats BULDGED cases bec its fluted chamber. No need to put the brass in the Lee buldge buster when using an aet barrel heheMy Apeiro 9mm AET was my first STI. I ran some loads w Xtreme bullets that shot 4" at 25 yards out of my Glock through it. Couldn't get 4" at 7 yards. I was pissed. I don't know about that but this is mine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't find the AET to be any better. I find it to be more finicky about feeding and bullets that it shoots accurately. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk My AET eats everything, lead, molly coated, copper coated, and fmj's and it even eats BULDGED cases bec its fluted chamber. No need to put the brass in the Lee buldge buster when using an aet barrel heheMy Apeiro 9mm AET was my first STI. I ran some loads w Xtreme bullets that shot 4" at 25 yards out of my Glock through it. Couldn't get 4" at 7 yards. I was pissed.I don't know about that but this is mine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk With Xtreme Bullets? I can get that w coated bullets but Xtremes have shot terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 So the ammo was the problem not the barrel Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I've tried several. Coated, plated, and FMJ HP'S and they're all just mediocre. They were all 180g and titegroup powder. The DVC shot all of them great. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Speaking of new Apeiros, what's the story with forward slide serrations? Is that a new thing? Old thing? Special order thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's just the way it comes..... Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pries81 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Where can I get that price on a set of Apeiros? They're beautiful pieces! How do you find they shoot compared to an Edge? Thanks Edited October 22, 2015 by pries81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 pries81: IM sent. I've only taken them out once so far, I'm hoping to get some range time this weekend and test some loads. The first impression however is very good, the lack of recoil in especially the 9mm is ridiculous! These are my first 2011's, so I can't compare to anything but a plain 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEP44 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Update: I'm quite happy with the accuracy so far. The .45 does not cycle Xtreme 185 FP reliably, but 200gr HP is as good as it gets for my skills at 25y offhand (20 rounds, the 1 flyer is operator error). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Bird Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 My STI is a 40cal and has a Schumann barrel. All part of the quality of the gun build. Put a Chevy engine in a Porsche and it will go down the street, but that is where it all ends. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardBlake Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 We ordered a 45 cap version for someone this month. It did not have a Schuemann barrel. He hasn't come back to tell us how it shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Speaking of new Apeiros, what's the story with forward slide serrations? Is that a new thing? Old thing? Special order thing? Do you mean the absence of them? They have never came with them. The one thing that kept me personally from ever considering buying one.... Unless you have seen that the new ones have started coming with them, which would be amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Speaking of new Apeiros, what's the story with forward slide serrations? Is that a new thing? Old thing? Special order thing? Do you mean the absence of them? They have never came with them. The one thing that kept me personally from ever considering buying one.... Unless you have seen that the new ones have started coming with them, which would be amazing! No they don't have any. However, Atlas Gunworks has one for sale that he added forward serrations. http://atlasgunworks.com/new-guns/in-stock-new-guns-atlas.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Wow, I am off the aperio search list too. I had considered o e instead of a custom build but the barrel is a deal breaker for me. Korean barrel? They should make that known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) I do find it interesting how critical people are becoming of the STI barrels now that they are no longer offering the Apeiro with the Schumen, when I hear next to no complaints about the same barrels in DVCs, Edges, Eagles, or any of the other very popular offerings STI makes using these same barrels... (which regardless of origin, I'm lead to believe are quite high quality) Edited January 4, 2016 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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