StealthyBlagga Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The much-anticipated update to IMA-SMM3G RULES is now complete and available for download. As in previous years, significant rule changes are highlighted with red text. For those members here that struggle with reading, the good news is that we were able to streamline the rules document to such an extent that we actually reduced the number of pages. For the first time in many years there are major changes to some of the equipment division rules, so we have also created a companion DIVISION CHANGE PRIMER document to explain the changes in plain English. We hope our patrons like what we have done, and find the new opportunities for innovation to be interesting and challenging. Those who may have been following my previous threads on the provisional division changes will still want to read the new rules carefully, as there are some subtle but important changes in the final version. The new rules will be used with immediate effect for all Rio Salado 3-Gun matches, and will be in force at SMM3G 2016. Any questions? Post 'em here or contact me directly by IM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 By the way, the new Stealth Division has been a big hit in our monthly matches, with participation now on a par with Limited and Open. Based on our experience so far, we expect to see a lot of defectors from Open and Tactical... Stealth is relatively accessible to participants from both divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Under posted rules for stealth shotgun I have two: 1) There is no rule about how many a stealth shotgun can start with, can a Xrail:compact be fully loaded at start. 2) Is Ghost loading allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Shotgun: Only a tube magazine is allowed, and the magazine tube must be no longer than 23.5”measured from the front of the receiver (in the photo below, the tube length is measured to be ~21.5”). Otherwise, use/do whatever you want, including starting the stage with as many rounds as you can fit in the gun (short shells, ghostload etc.). 1. From Richard's 'Division Change Primer' I don't believe the XRail/XRail Compact qualify as a tube magazine - although I could be wrong. 2. Otherwise....starting the stage with as many rounds as you can fit.... I'm sure he'll be here soon to clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Under posted rules for stealth shotgun I have two: 1) There is no rule about how many a stealth shotgun can start with, can a Xrail:compact be fully loaded at start. 2) Is Ghost loading allowed Shotgun: Only a tube magazine is allowed, and the magazine tube must be no longer than 23.5”measured from the front of the receiver (in the photo below, the tube length is measured to be ~21.5”). Otherwise, use/do whatever you want, including starting the stage with as many rounds as you can fit in the gun (short shells, ghostload etc.). 1. From Richard's 'Division Change Primer' I don't believe the XRail/XRail Compact qualify as a tube magazine - although I could be wrong. 2. Otherwise....starting the stage with as many rounds as you can fit.... I'm sure he'll be here soon to clarify. Indeed: 1) X-Rail is no bueno in Stealth. The rules for Stealth, Tactical, Limited and Heavy Metal stipulate “only a tubular magazine is permitted”. This is an intentional wording change from the previous rules version (which read “only tubular magazines are permitted”); we added the “a” and deleted the "s" with the specific goal of prohibiting multi-tube systems like the X-Rail from Stealth, and that is how the RM will interpret the rule. The same wording got carried over to Tactical/Limited/HM, and would prohibit X-Rail in those divisions too (even if downloaded). 2) Yes, ghost loading is perfectly OK in Stealth. Within the given tube length constraint, it should be possible to start the stage loaded with 9+1+1 in the gun (assuming your gun is capable of being ghost loaded). Edited September 18, 2015 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Now I need to get a tube fed again so I can shoot in Stealth next spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I thought you said you will never shoot a tube fed shotgun again! Are you flip flopping? Welcome to stealth!! Edited September 18, 2015 by Mad Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Can I ask what the motivation and logic were behind stealth? I'm not criticizing or anything, I'm just curious what were the things that lead to its creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Can I ask what the motivation and logic were behind stealth? I'm not criticizing or anything, I'm just curious what were the things that lead to its creation. There are four pages of discussion in THIS THREAD . I thought you said you will never shoot a tube fed shotgun again! Are you flip flopping? Welcome to stealth!! Not Flip Flopping... EVOLVING Edited September 18, 2015 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Can I ask what the motivation and logic were behind stealth? I'm not criticizing or anything, I'm just curious what were the things that lead to its creation. There are four pages of discussion in THIS THREAD . Thank you, I didn't see that one for some reason. Edited September 18, 2015 by Vlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Stealth = justification for Carry Optics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I like the rule set! I like the new Heavy Division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree, I like the new heavy Division and Stealth. Now which to choose....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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