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Anybody play online poker? I just signed up at Pokerroom.com. (It's the only place where a Mac can play, via its Java app.) I'm going to use play money only. (If I want to throw away my hard-earned money, I'll give it to the local casinos.)

I've become addicted to the poker shows on TV. (Not the celebrity show; those guys suck.) That's some serious drama in the no-limit final tables.

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OK, so what's the deal with the no-limit TV poker? Are all those guys really putting up the dough to play, or is someone bankrolling them? There's a whole lot of people with 100K to throw away on a whim out there if that's for real.

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The WPT (Travel Channel here) is the only way to go

Berkim, have you seen the world series of poker on ESPN? My wife and I watched the whole 2004 series over the christmas break over a 2 day span! I much prefer their coverage of this tournament to the travel channels. If you haven't seen the ESPN show, check it out.

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Wasn't the 2004 ESPN WSoP the one in which three people drowned in the River (and one or two busted) when they were 90+% to win the hand?

My guess is many of the pros are bankrolled, that's why they are called pros. I wonder if the big dogs who have won a lot play with their own money. And you have to realize the chip values are fictional, otherwise Phil Gordon would have cashed out his $1+M tonight, where he won only $360,000 for winning that tournament. (Did you see how he bet with those crap hands? Damn that takes cojones.)

BTW, my poker room nickname is the scientific name for the triggerfish genus. :)

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i play on pokerstars.com under the name limited40.

btw, the pros are not bank rolled, they put up their buy-in just like everyone else. pros have hugh bank rolls to ride out the ups and downs of the game. if you'll notice most of the same guys are always at the final table with the exception of one or two being dead money.

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Buddy of mine plays poker on a serious level. The tournaments are a buy-in per player, some of the satellite tournaments have lower buy-ins ($1,000 or so), the bigger ones have higher ($10k up). I have never heard him talk of anyone actually being bankrolled, although it could happen.

He now looks at it like any other job. Some of the private games have really stiff buy-ins, and players get in through introductions from known players. I can only imagine the cost of some of the big private games in a place that plays all the time, like Vegas. The guy I know is a real character...he could sell sandals to sled dogs and they would leave knowing they got an unbelievable deal :D

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I play at paradisepoker when feeling like a low stakes, something to do in the background while on the computer poker game.

Real life, play most Friday evenings with friends, low stakes but big attitudes.

The big dogs that play in tournaments, do it with their own real money. It's apparently respectable enough nowadays that my allumni newsletter had a profile of a pro poker player in the last issue. It was mentioned he missed some grad school becasue he was off making the big bucks playing cards instead, then would show up back in town with a new car and such. He's plenty rich now.

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Finally tried Pokerroom.com, play money only.

I think the site has lost my fake money 3 times already. Not a confidence builder.

Took me a while to get over $2,000, I leave the table going for a new smaller table, I'm at zero!

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The large stacks you see at the final tables are the "dead money" that was donated by all the loosers. Hundereds of players at the start with a 10K buy-in. Most of the ones at the final table play poker for a living. Not bad pay if you can win on occasion. <_< TXAG

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I got frustrated by everybody calling to the river in the low limit hold em ring games. Then I started playing no limit tournaments. Hello! Much better, except for the three twits at every table who go all-in on the first hand. (Yes, after the first all-in is called, a third asshat lowers their odds by joining.) So then one guy has $6,000 and all of us who folded have $1,500. That one guy behind the chip castle never makes it much farther.

I can regularly get in the final three but I always seem to have a short stack. I guess I need to play more hands and be more aggressive early on. Unlike the low-limit ring games, the no-limit tourney players are very tight. You can bully them around but they are hard to milk for big pots. I was really proud when a couple nights ago I went head to head with $3,000 vs. $10,000 and I won. Soon after I got ahead, he went all-in pre-flop with AK or something while I had AA. Game over.

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I went back on today, and my play money was back!, so it really only got lost twice...

I haven't tried the "NL" games yet... I'll need to build up some confidence..

Erik, start a table, we can have a BE game.

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I recommend jumping in to the NL tournaments, not ring games, as soon as you figure out the game in the low limit ring games. Mainly you need to know that you need a good to great hand to win against a full table and you can take the pot with garbage heads up or with only two others at the table. So at a NL tourney, starting out playing tight then becoming more aggressive seems to guarantee a finish in the money (top three).

After SMM3G maybe I can get into a private table.

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Hey E,

I know of two groups of guys that play very often. I don't participate often, 'cause that's not my passion. But the pot reaches 500+ dollars with unlimited buy in's every weekend. Last time I played I didn't fair so well, but i met a really cute girl in the process. There's nothing like playin' in person. I'd pay to lose and have at some of those games. ;)

jj

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Well, last night my account rolled over $10,000 in play money, from a $1,000 start. I started playing at low-limit ring games. I tried to sit in with only $200 (max $1,000) to make it more challenging and I eventually doubled my money. Then I started playing tournaments for a $100 buy-in ($500 to the winner). It's not hard to get in the final three paying places.

In 40 minutes I'm starting a 2,400 player tournament with a $1,000 pool of real money. First gets only $100 and they pay down to 45th. But it's free to enter.

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