ty34984 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I have used the search and came up with nothing so please forgive me. If someone said "My gun has been stoked" what are they speaking about. I remember oh 30 years ago I was "stoked" when i got my first car but in reference to a firearm I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinc78 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) It's stroked.... Akai is offering that on their guns. Basically in a rough since modding the slide and reverse plug to allow the slide to travel further back on the frame when fired Edited February 23, 2015 by calvinc78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeahi think they meant they were super stoked that their gun has been stroked. It's modding the slide to allow a longer stroke. More of a limited thing than open. The idea being a longer stroke gives you more time/length to slow down the rearward travel enough to reduce that final muzzle lift inducing impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thanks for the info, Had never heard of it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Update on the 6": I stroked it! 0.134" increased stroke, I'll give a range report once I get around to loading some 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsons1480 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I thought it meant you loaded a round in the chamber and then put a full magazine in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well Im guessing you remove metal from somewhere to let it back farther. On the trade off are you weakening it somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb315 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Here... http://www.acguns.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 OK now I'm really confused. Why have we been putting shock buff's in for years and ....UNSTROKING it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Shocks buffs are a gimmick/snake oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Interesting Broad Paint Brush you just used. Could you please explain your statement a bit. I seem to like the feel of the gimmick/snake oil Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Update on the 6": I stroked it! 0.134" increased stroke, I'll give a range report once I get around to loading some 40 Have you thought of trying a shock buffer on the stroked Hunter? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I've used shok-buffs ever since they came out, I like them. There are an equal # of people who don't like them. It's like the Chevy/Ford thing, although I think that has died down quite a bit in the last 30 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 I've used shok-buffs ever since they came out, I like them. There are an equal # of people who don't like them. It's like the Chevy/Ford thing, although I think that has died down quite a bit in the last 30 years or so. I agree with you statement, I just wonder why the snake oil comment. Glk21C watching the topic but doesn't answer must just like stirring the pot rather then make a intelligent comment, or clarification of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was at a training a year or so ago and one of the manufacturers of a shock buff was there. It was communicated that the shock buff's do nothing; they are manufactured because there is a market for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm a buff fan. 6" .40 with a soft-ish plastic/rubber buff and a thin aluminum buff to keep the plastic one from breaking down as quickly. So, yes, I substantially UN-stroked my pistol. And, I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was at a training a year or so ago and one of the manufacturers of a shock buff was there. It was communicated that the shock buff's do nothing; they are manufactured because there is a market for them. Well you statement is snake oil. Shooters us them and like the way they change the FEEL of the gun under recoil. So they do something just not what you want. I guess I'm a do nothing guy, I have 2 a Wilson first then a dawson alum and it really changes the feel of recoil. Hence the interest of wanting longer slide movement when I have shortened mine. I will settle for a "to each their own" Thanks for you clarification of your statement. I would be curious to know who made that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I can't believe people buy shok-buffs just because they are there. I never buy Tampax and they are there every time I go to the grocery store ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I can't believe people buy shok-buffs just because they are there. I never buy Tampax and they are there every time I go to the grocery store ! Then let me just say, you are missing out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was at a training a year or so ago and one of the manufacturers of a shock buff was there. It was communicated that the shock buff's do nothing; they are manufactured because there is a market for them. Again, I would be interested in the "training" glk21c was at and what manufacture made that statement. To step on a limb I'm going to call "BS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 GF procures her own !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Have you thought of trying a shock buffer on the stroked Hunter? Just curious I have though of it, but just haven't gotten around to it. I have way too many projects rattling around in my head and rarely drive Limited guns to one of the front burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Shortening/lengthening the stroke certainly changes the character of the recoil impulse, along with bullet weight, slide weight, grip strength and countless other variables. If there was just one objectively perfect solution this game would be pretty boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty34984 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Shortening/lengthening the stroke certainly changes the character of the recoil impulse, along with bullet weight, slide weight, grip strength and countless other variables. If there was just one objectively perfect solution this game would be pretty boring So true, I viewed on slow motion video all guns recoil up and down they look flat when shot but video doesn't lie "it how much makeup you put on the freckle" that will change the feeling. I had just never heard of "Stoked" lengthening the movement, I always was shorting the stroke to change the feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 When I first read about Akai Stroking guns I was very intrigued by the concept, so when I figured out an easy way to try it with my Hunter, I dove in. Because of the recoil system design I can reverse the process by simply changing the guide rod assembly for an unmodified one which let's me isolate the effect and I can tell you on that pistol it definitely has a noticeable softening effect to the recoil impulse.Where I would really like to try it is with one of my short Open guns, I think it can really mitigate the snap of the huge charges required to make major in a 4.4" barrel with three holes.I think stroking, like moving to a heavier bullet is a way to soften a violent gun, whereas de stoking adds snap to an overly sluggish feeling gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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