ErikW Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Does anybody have a long dust cover STI or SV with STI stainless magazine well extension that fits in the box for IPSC Standard? I guess I should also worry about international magazines fitting in the gun with that mag well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Should be fine, the dimensions on the STI Aluminum and Stainless magwells are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Erik, I have that very same setup, and it fits the box. It's a tight fit, and sometimes you have to gently press down the adjustable rear sight. Anyway, you can have a look at my setup in this thread, or a preview right here: Yes, I know, horrible pictures, I'll shoot some better ones asap. If you have any question about it, just ask or PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Sky, How many capacity can your mag fit? 18+1? what is the setup? and is it reloadable? thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 achard, all info on my mags setup here. 18+1 rounds, not reloadable (yet...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 BTW, to whoever needs a more detailed report on this mags setup: email me and I'll send you a 2MB zip file with lotsa pics and a small word file to describe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 The STI is the biggest box friendly mag well I know. It perfectly fit the box on all my pistols, as Luca stated, sometimes you need to push a little on the rear sight to make it fall into the box. Beware if you got fixed sights : When I shot the STI Tactical with MMC rear sight I had to push hard to make it fit in the box and I had to disassamble the box the take my pistol back. Hey, they say it must fit in the box, it did ! After this, I trimmed a bit the sight. Luca: I'm interested with your file, can you send it to me please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 One thing to consider is how you seat the mags. Shooting Limited, I'd guess that you're a front seater (i.e. you seat off the front of the mag) as most of us are. If you have an unmodified STI magwell and box-compliant mags, you're gonna have to seat off the rear of the mag. I've seen several people that cut off the front of the magwell so that they can continue to be front seaters (Voigt is one such person)... I originally thought it was more to help with box compliance, but it's for the reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Cullen, I never thought about it until you mentioned it. I'm trying to visualize my reloads, and I can say that I (probably) push the front of the mag to seat it too. I never had a problem in seating my mags with international box-compliant basepads through the STI magwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Hey Luca, just curious, but is the reason why your mags aren't reloadable to 18 because it's a bit too stiff? I mean, is it REALLY hard to seat them with 18 or just kinda hard? Try a little experiment: take off your magwell and practice reloads for a while (just so you can hit them without the magwell). Then try it with a full mag and see if the greater surface area up front allows you to seat it more easily. I know for me that at LAMR getting a full 20-rounder in the gun takes a bit of effort, but reloading to one never is a problem (adrenaline, whatever). If you can get more meat of your hand onto the mag, it might be possible to get those 18-rounders in there. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Cullen, I'll try. The mag is medium-hard to seat when full, but I suspect that the extra force ( ) I need to seat it is due mainly to the fact that there is very little play (downwards) for the rounds when the mag is full and the spring already totally compressed. I mean, in training I am able most of the time to seat a full 18-rounder, but it requires me a conscious effort that I am not willing to perform in matches, thus I download them to 17 rounds. Dunno about the greater surface area: it looks like I already use all the available, since the front of the base pad still protrudes some 3-4 mm from the bottom of the magwell. Anyway, I'll try. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 It's worth a shot, anyway. I know my hand squishes more than 4mm when I slam home a mag. I tend to keep the mags at 20 for field courses, but will download 'em (just in case I FUBAR a reload) depending on stage design. They always get downloaded for classifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 It's a tight fit, and sometimes you have to gently press down the adjustable rear sight. Not a problem for me and my Heinie fixed sight! Thanks for the help, Luca. I'll be using the same magazines as you, SV tubes and Dawson pads. 300#G, I don't think I'm a front seater. But I've never reloaded a box-legal mag so that could change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 300#G, I don't think I'm a front seater. I'd bet you are. If you grab the mag (140s) with your index finger anywhere near the bullet tip, you end up seating the mag with the forward portion of the basepad towards the bottom of your palm... unless you're Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 You can see what I'm talking about in the famous TT reload vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 Somehow, I have a vague recollection of seating with the back corner of the mag base pad. Funny how I've done it thousands of times yet can't remember the exact mechanics of how I reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Jeez, you guys also made me wonder how I seat my mags in a reload. But I think I'm a front-seater....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Hey Luca can you email me the mag facts im interested. I already have one but im still open to new suggestions. also if you want a reloadable mag that fits the ipsc box i think sps is selling one complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I already have 4 18+1 and I hope I can get the brazilian mag too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Hey Luca can you email me the mag facts im interested. I already have one but im still open to new suggestions. Jason, PM or email me and I'll send you the files. If the brazilian mags will be available (at a reasonable price) I'd be willing to give'em a try too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 If the brazilian mags will be available (at a reasonable price) I'd be willing to give'em a try too. Take a ticket I bet they would sell very fast ! If the price is affordable I'll take one or a couple too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 this is my friends std gun. STI std frame with STI magwell, it fits the box!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 had to edit my post since negotiations are on the way and they may get angry for the info leak. sorry guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Front seater/rear seater....does it matter??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Front seater/rear seater....does it matter??? NOPE! Much like my other two favorite sports, long as you get it in as soon as possible, it's ALL good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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