robertg5322 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Anyone know the actual weight of a Springfield Armory Loaded 9mm 1911 Target (adjustable sights, fine slide serrations)? Got one at the gun shop for the 10 day wait (thank you Kalifornia, I feel soooo much safer now that I've had 10 days to cool down), getting parts ordered and wondering if a standard Wilson Combat steel MSH/magwell (I have one laying around, so it's a free option) will take the gun over the 43 oz USPSA Single Stack class weight limit and force me to get a Dawson Precision aluminum MSH/Magwell. Of note, I am removing the Springfield Armory ILS fustercluck MSH one way or the other. Also replacing the FLGR with a traditional guide rod and spring cap. Other than that, no other upgrades that will affect weight. Thanks in advance. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckstur Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Mine( barely) makes the IDPA weight with the original plastic MSH and aluminum Dawson ICE magwell. I shortened the two piece guide rod so I could disassemble the gun with out tools. ILS gone, 10# and 17# springs, extended firing pin. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Gracias, so it seems Dawson Ice with aluminum MSH is required. I'll weigh the thing when I get to to be sure. Again, thanks. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Not sure on the Springfield, but my Spartan was too heavy with a steel m/s magwell combo & steel guide rod. I went with the Briley alum. rod & Dawson Ice with alum. m/s housing. Weight is measured with a mag inserted, so that could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohland Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Springfield's website says it weighs 41 ounces from the factory, with an empty OEM magazine. It comes with a Full-Length Guide Rod, so you can swap that out if you need to save any weight. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Picked it up today. I'll weigh it and see if S/A is honest with their 41 oz. claim. Also have traditional short GI guide rod and cap and S/A magwell/MSH in steel on another gun. I'll install this on it to see where I'm at. Thanks for the help. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 My 9mm Range Officer weighs in at 42.6 oz with a S&A mag well, FLGR and square bottom wooden grips. I have hogged out the opening of the mag well. Not sure how much weight that took out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 My plan is to weigh it with GI rod S/A magwell and Hogue smooth wood flat bottom grips with skate tape on them. If it comes in <43 os with Metalform 10 round mag I'll call it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 GI guide rod and cap, Wilson Combat magwell and MSH (stainless), wood grips with skate tape on them and skate tap on front strap, Metalform 10 round mag with plastic base, total weight 411.6 oz. Calibrated the scale, it was right on. Weight of .40 S&W Kimber frame with STI slide, set up exactly the same came in at 41.3 oz. That's what it weighed at Golden Bullet Regional match earlier this year so I am feeling like I can trust the scale. Only difference other than STI slide scallops vs. Springfield slide scallops was new Hogue grips on 9mm were hollowed out in rear, grips on Kimber were solid. I believe replacing the FLGR with the GI unit makes a considerable difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwashorn Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I have the Springfield 9mm loaded. Dawson ICE magwell, Tripp Research mags with Dawson pads, VZ G10 grips, trigger has been upgraded by SVI Infinity and I had to put in the shorty GI rod to make weight on a calibrated Postal Scale. Comes in a 42.6 oz. Been tested at three major matches. I was using a titanium GR with VZ slims but too close to make weight. So GI shorty was the trick. your mileage may vary but this will get it close. If not, hollow out the grips, go to slim grips etc. I had SA stainless magwell before and did not make weight. Good shooting gun though and friends use it and love it. It is my back up to my SVI Infinity 2011 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Grips are plain wood Hogues with grip tape over them. Apparently Hogue now hollows them out for you. Your Dawson pads aluminum or plastic? I have Metalform mags with plastic pads. Once I have the magwell (waited on ordering it until I could test gun weight with magwell from my .40 gun) installed, I'll weigh it again to be sure. GI guide rod is hollow, which helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike21STI Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Aluminum guide rod, shave the back of the grips, and change out the main spring housing with the dawson ice magwell and you should be good to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Alum. Ice magwell and possibly a GI guide rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Got hollowed out Hogue wood grips (they come from Hogue like that now, nice) with skate tape on them, GI guide rod and Ed Brown steel magwell/MSH, and Metalform magazines with plastic basepads and it comes in at 41.6 oz. Only thing left is lightening and smoothing the trigger and sighting it in. Another week and it'll be on the range. Thanks all for the info. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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