Mild Bill Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Looking a eaa pistol, I have shot idpa in the past, and not looking for a race gun. I do like to tinker with my own stuff. It may progress to a race gun it is the reason I bring it to you. I like the aluminum framed ones what is the best base gun to start with. If this has been beat to death just point me in the right direction please. Is 38 super the way to go? I have most of the items on my 550 to set it up. I have set ups for 9mm and .45acp. Thank you, William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 you really need to narrow down a few things. which division you want to shoot will affect what you buy if planning to go race gun later, something like a limited custom which already has mount holes in the fame, is single action only and has a lightened slide might be a good choice. I'm not sure what (if any) division it would suit in IDPA though. There's no reason not to go 9mm. plenty of people shoot 9mm race guns, but 38 super is arguably a better choice for an open gun. the limited pro seem like a popular choice and are reasonable money. They are like 90% of a stock II for probably 50% of the money. They have the desirable comp frame. The big differences over the stock II are the shorter dust cover (some may actually prefer the short dust cover) and they don't have the bull barrel/cone lockup barrel or the polygonal rifling. Again, those are debatable benefits. It does have the nicer hammer (better than the ring hammer on a stock III even) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 My Limited Pro has poly rifling. I like the balance better on it vs. the Stock II, as well as the slightly longer sight radius. On aluminum frame... If you are shooting in competitions I'd get a steel frame gun for the added weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 So does the stock II have the longer dust cover? I don't think i would run a scope or red dot yet, maybe at a later time. What makes the 38 super a better choice? I have always wanted a 38 super , have no reason to need one, but wanted one. I also like the longer dust cover. Maybe the pistol I choose will help me choose a division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Is the pistol above steel? I have not been able to get a hold of a metal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 EAA is an importer which imports a few makes of European firearms, but on these forums the name is synonymous with Tanfoglio, the Italian CZ 75 platform pistol. I am unaware of an aluminum framed Tanfoglio, but I know they are made in polymer and steel. EAA also imports Sarsılmaz pistols, a Turkish CZ 75 platform pistol, which I believe are available with an alloy frame. Maybe you could link to a picture of one you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck s Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 A limited pro in 9mm is a rare bird and cost about the same as a stock 11. After the required trigger job, you will have around 15-1600 bucks in either one. The limited pro is IDPA legal and the stock 11 or Limited are not. The pro is the most versatile of the 3, the Limited is the best one for "limited class" uspsa , probably in 40 cal., and the stock 11 is probably considered the best production gun of the 3. 38super is probably best suited for open class. Aluminum framed guns seem a poor fit for high use competition guns, especially in 40 or 38 super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 It would be for USPSA. thinking about running it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 So does the stock II have the longer dust cover? I don't think i would run a scope or red dot yet, maybe at a later time. What makes the 38 super a better choice? I have always wanted a 38 super , have no reason to need one, but wanted one. I also like the longer dust cover. Maybe the pistol I choose will help me choose a division. The stock II does have the longer (full length) dust cover. so it helps reduce recoil a little. it also has the cone/bull barrel which again adds some weight up front over the limited pro. The reason 38 super is a better choice is that you said you wanted to go to open one day. shooting major power factor in open means needing a lot of powder. the 38 super case is longer than 9mm so it has more room. it's basically just a little easier to run a major PF gun in 38 super than 9mm, but you most certainly can run major 9mm if you wanted to. 38 super is fine to shoot minor too. so if you bought a stock II in 38 super it would be a fine production gun with potential to convert to an open gun later. if you like the longer dust cover and you like 38 super then probably a stock II in 38 super is the way to go. in tanfoglio language this is a 'large frame'. which is a good thing. I shoot that exact gun. a large frame stock II in 38 super but I have a 9mm barrel for it too and shoot it in 9mm as well. this is the stock II. they are a great looking pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 That to me looks all kinds of sexy. On the poly frame on the rear, where my .45 Springfield has the grip safety is the problem. My hands are long and the hump felt a little funny I hope to grip a metal gun and its shaped a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I want a lim pro in 9mm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I want a lim pro in 9mm.... I want a Lim Pro and a Limited to go with my Stock 1, 2, & 3:-) Sent from my flux capacitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 So does the one pictures have a larger grip than say the poly pistol? I'm going to have to find some place around here that Carries these. My buddy can order it for me I just need to be sure it fits before I order it. The thing about the short dust cover one is that I could finish out this year shooting IDPA and get things sorted for next year run and gun. The thing about the long dust cover is she speeks to me. Any one have a bunch of links they could put up for tips & tricks? Trigger job, tweeks. Thank you all. If you don't care put up some gun porn, thanks William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Polly frame feels thinner and blockier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny32182 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm no open expert by any means, but I don't think you want to get a Stock 2 if your goal is to one day shoot open. It has a double action trigger and a 4.5" barrel, neither of which are going to be desirable in open I don't think. Plus stock 2's are called "unicorns" for a reason; your buddy will not simply be able to order one most likely. The Limited is much more available, and probably much more suitable for what it sounds like you might want to do with it. You could buy it in .40 now, shoot it in Limited division, and then when you want to go to Open, I assume you could have a new top end built in your choice of .355 caliber. And the frame is pre-drilled for a scope mount. If you drill a stock 2 frame I believe that takes it out of Production permanently, and that will kill its value since it is predominantly a production gun anyway. "Limited" in .40: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420349784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 "Limited" in .40: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420349784 http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/eaa-tanfoglio/eaa-witness-limited-40-s-w.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleverUsername Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 ^WINNER! cheapest one on the internet today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Keiser Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 So does the stock II have the longer dust cover? I don't think i would run a scope or red dot yet, maybe at a later time. What makes the 38 super a better choice? I have always wanted a 38 super , have no reason to need one, but wanted one. I also like the longer dust cover. Maybe the pistol I choose will help me choose a division. If you must have a super, be happy knowing you can use 9mm in it with a couple extra reloading tricks. I have 38 Supers in 1911 and Tanfoglio platforms and both have gone through many 9. I got a 38 Limited because Henning told me there were no 9mm bigsticks at the time and I hadn't heard of people welding mags together to make 170mm. Later, I heard about plenty of folks shooting 9mm major in their 38 S open guns! Once I figured out how that worked I did the same with my 1911. Zero problems. Zero. (Ok, if you don't count the occasional .380 ACP finding its way through the loading process and causing an extraction failure. Duh!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 My new pistol in a new caliber showed up today:-) Sent from my flux capacitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Damn Gump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sexay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 nice. love the stock III. My only gripe is I don't understand why they had to cheap out on the hammer. I guess the whole thing of the stock III was to bring costs down to compete better with the cheaper CZ (hence cheaper barrel and hammer). I used to really prefer the stock III special (silver finish) but the blued version has grown on me a lot. Should be a great shooter in 40cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 So does the stock II have the longer dust cover? I don't think i would run a scope or red dot yet, maybe at a later time. What makes the 38 super a better choice? I have always wanted a 38 super , have no reason to need one, but wanted one. I also like the longer dust cover. Maybe the pistol I choose will help me choose a division. If you must have a super, be happy knowing you can use 9mm in it with a couple extra reloading tricks. I have 38 Supers in 1911 and Tanfoglio platforms and both have gone through many 9. I got a 38 Limited because Henning told me there were no 9mm bigsticks at the time and I hadn't heard of people welding mags together to make 170mm. Later, I heard about plenty of folks shooting 9mm major in their 38 S open guns! Once I figured out how that worked I did the same with my 1911. Zero problems. Zero. (Ok, if you don't count the occasional .380 ACP finding its way through the loading process and causing an extraction failure. Duh!) I have a swap top for my 1911, in .40 my smith was never able to get it to run. I was going to use it to run limited 10. I shot my wife's Glock a couple rounds, but the whole reason to get the top was trigger time on the same frame in two classes. Thanks for the Oak Hills link, looks like the way to go. Limited pro looks like it. If I could use it in Idpa it would be everything I was looking for. I'm finishing up a Blackout build so it will still be a little while before I'm looking to buy. I'm going to the gun show and I'm going to look for one to grip. So the .40 frame will take the .38 super upper and has the bigger frame, coned barrel, and is single action. Correct? Any links for tips and tricks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Limited pro looks like it. If I could use it in Idpa it would be everything I was looking for. You can use it in IDPA. It makes weight and fits in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mild Bill Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 Haven't shot it in a quiet a while but was there something about no long dust cover? Iv been looking at the threads relating to the EAA and you guys have some extra nice pistols. I had planed to go to the gun show this morning but didn't make it. It was a beautiful day and I almost have my bush hogging done. Other than the Kentucky gun company and Oak Hill Guns any other places to keep an eye on? It kind of sounds like I will be extra hard pressed to find a Tanfoglio at the gun show to grip. Wish me luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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