danman00 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I just purchased some Ramshot Competition this past weekend at a local gunshow here in southwest FL The price was right ($19.00 per 14oz. Keg which was $10/keg cheaper than a guy two rows down from him). I do see some published data for 9mm and 40 on Ramshot's website but it's very rarely mentioned here on BE's forums as anyone's favorite, or at least not that I've seen. I'm going to load some up with 147gr Blue Bullets and try it out later this week. Anyone have any experience with Ramshot Competition that wants to share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo2011 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It is quite fast powder and meters above average. Proceed with caution with heavier bullets because of the very small charge weights needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregshin Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ramshot's book says for plated 147gr PLATED bullet is 2.6gr starting and 3.0gr max. I started doing 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0 none could cycle my stock glock 34. i looked at the primers and there was no sign of overpressure at 3.0gr grains. So then i went to 3.2 and 3.4 and still could not cycle and no signs of overpressure. At this point accuracy was starting to get better as well. I stopped at 3.6gr at 1.135 OAL when the gun cycled 100% with no signs of overpressure on the primer. I've loaded over 10,000 loads with this data. 147gr Xtreme plated round nose 3.6gr Ramshot comp 1.135 OAL mixed brass tula, win, fed, and cci primers used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman00 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 It is quite fast powder and meters above average. Proceed with caution with heavier bullets because of the very small charge weights needed. Ramshot's book says for plated 147gr PLATED bullet is 2.6gr starting and 3.0gr max. I started doing 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0 none could cycle my stock glock 34. i looked at the primers and there was no sign of overpressure at 3.0gr grains. So then i went to 3.2 and 3.4 and still could not cycle and no signs of overpressure. At this point accuracy was starting to get better as well. I stopped at 3.6gr at 1.135 OAL when the gun cycled 100% with no signs of overpressure on the primer. I've loaded over 10,000 loads with this data. 147gr Xtreme plated round nose 3.6gr Ramshot comp 1.135 OAL mixed brass tula, win, fed, and cci primers used. Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike283 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Here is a little data that I collected recently... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=192226&hl= I don't think I'm going to bother with it. I didn't really see any pressure signs from the primer at 4.0gr/124 plated, but it is .5gr over book max. I like running 147s, but I'm not even going to attempt it with Comp, but I admit that I'm not terribly experienced in reloading yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinc78 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I'm loading 147 blue bullets with 3.3grs comp at 1.135 in a XDM 5.25 runs me just under 130pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Gun: Gans Guns 2011 Bullet: 147gr Bayou Bullet Brass: Mixed Primer: Tula SPP Powder: 3.2gr OAL: 1.145 Ave FPS: 927 PF: 136 Powder: 3.0gr Ave FPS: 879 PF: 129 I also ran 1.115 OAL and saw no difference in results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I experimented with RS Competition for 3 months. Their printed data is a joke. I found it to be an exact replacement for N320 grain for grain. I use N320 data when I load it and in side by side comparisons it's a twin. It is a great powder for what we are doing, you would be hard pressed to find a better one. The 3.6 grn load with the X-Treme 147 round nose equals the same load I was using when I could get N320. I also use the 3.3 load with the Blue Bullets and it works great also. Edited April 15, 2014 by bowenbuilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman00 Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Wow, this makes me feel better for buying as much RS comp as I did. Thanks guys.. I really appreciate the responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Dan and Greg, I see no reference to crono data where you are right now in your load developing. If you are not using one and just relying on loads you gleen from this forum, Stop all "testing" and buy or borrow a crono. It is just as important in reloading as having dies, and they cost only a about $100. Cheap "insurance"... jmho jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 i could not agree more with the statement above. Every gun is a law unto its self and you really need a chrono to do any serious load testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Ramshot's book says for plated 147gr PLATED bullet is 2.6gr starting and 3.0gr max. I started doing 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0 none could cycle my stock glock 34. i looked at the primers and there was no sign of overpressure at 3.0gr grains. So then i went to 3.2 and 3.4 and still could not cycle and no signs of overpressure. At this point accuracy was starting to get better as well. I stopped at 3.6gr at 1.135 OAL when the gun cycled 100% with no signs of overpressure on the primer. I've loaded over 10,000 loads with this data. 147gr Xtreme plated round nose 3.6gr Ramshot comp 1.135 OAL mixed brass tula, win, fed, and cci primers used. Change your springs, change your load.....probably for the better too. Stock G34 weight is 17#, and I'd be willing to bet that you could lower your charge, reduce your recoil, and still maintain PF with a lighter spring. Edited April 16, 2014 by Noximus03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Their top load of 3 grains with a 147 grain bullet would not function my gun with a 13 lb spring either and was no where close to 130 PF. 3.6 just barely makes PF out of my 34. They must have 2 Lawyers writing the loading manual at Ram Shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 According to my data I was able to safely make minor PF with just 3.0gr. 3.2gr got me 136pf. I suppose it varies gun to gun. Even more evidence to support the importance of using a chrony when developing loads towards the top end of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo2011 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Second on the chrony. I got 130 pf with 115 extreme rn, 4.1 out to 1.16 in a spartan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I was using plated bullets trying 3 grains. With coated bullets in my gun 3 grains comes in just under 130 PF but with plated or jacketed bullets it would not function my gun. Coated bullets worked fine with the 3 grain load. I was not specific about this in my post above. I will also add the 3.3 grains using coated 147 grain bullets were more accurate and much cleaner shooting. 3.6 with a plated or jacket bullet functioned my gun and matched my old favorite N320 load. You are correct in that every gun is different and a chrono is a must when trying to develop good safe loads especially with these fast burning powders and heavy bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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