AlphaSeeker Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just ordered a Stock 3 in 40sw. No discount on this baby. It is destined for USPSA production, where it will use the 9mm slide from my Match. The 40sw slide will ride the Match frame for Limited/limited 10. Maybe after I use up my stash of 9mm brass, I may try 40 minor for production. Ordered two sets of springs in anticipation. Also have lighter hammer spring and extended firing pin in the package. Will have a F/O front and Xtreme grips. Now I have to find a holster for my Nuevo Amico [new friend]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric4069 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 by the USPSA rules it is not legal to use a 9mm top end or barrel on a 40 cal gun in Production Division. Appendix D4, 21.3 (replacement barrel must be same caliber) sorry, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just shoot .40 for Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgoose Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I love my Stock II in 40 for production. I think the recoil feels even softer than my 147gr 9mm mouse fart loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 +1 to all these posts ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 The same gun is made in 9, 40, 38 super, and 45. It is legal, the long slide is the same slide that the 9 would come with from Tanfoglio, EAA confirmed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 As for replacement barrel- not replacing barrel like the m&p conversions. This is a factory 9mm slide and barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 I love my Stock II in 40 for production. I think the recoil feels even softer than my 147gr 9mm mouse fart loads. I'll definitely try 40 minor after I use up my 9mm brass and bullets, have about 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The same gun is made in 9, 40, 38 super, and 45. It is legal, the long slide is the same slide that the 9 would come with from Tanfoglio, EAA confirmed this. Ask Amidon. It's not legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNA Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Hey Alpha, mind saying where you found the Stock 3 in stock? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 If I'm not mistaken, the slide & barrel length on a match upper is not the same as the stock 3. Additionally, I don't even think its the same contour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 The long slide conversion, made by Tanfoglio, is the same shape and barrel as the one used on the stock 3. I believe the limited pro is the same as well. It just does not have the model designation written on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The rules are pretty clear that the replacement slide and barrel have to be the same shape, CALIBER, and contour as the original model. Your model is a .40, so you would have to replace the .40 barrel/slide with another .40 barrel/slide. From my extremely limited research the barrel/slide length and contour are the same, it's that caliber thing that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Congrats on the Stock III. I wish I could find another Stock II or III to have a backup to my Stock II production gun, lol Sent from my flux capacitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) The rules are pretty clear that the replacement slide and barrel have to be the same shape, CALIBER, and contour as the original model. Your model is a .40, so you would have to replace the .40 barrel/slide with another .40 barrel/slide. From my extremely limited research the barrel/slide length and contour are the same, it's that caliber thing that is the problem. I dont think the receiver of my stock 3 is marked 9mm. For all anyone knows, it could be either a 9mm or a .40. Edited April 9, 2014 by Onagoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The rules are pretty clear that the replacement slide and barrel have to be the same shape, CALIBER, and contour as the original model. Your model is a .40, so you would have to replace the .40 barrel/slide with another .40 barrel/slide. From my extremely limited research the barrel/slide length and contour are the same, it's that caliber thing that is the problem. The receiver of my stock 3 is not marked 9mm. For all anyone knows, it could be either a 9mm or a .40. Right, it's the same as a Glock frame, which could be a 17, 22, 34, 35, 24, etc and you can't tell what it was originally once you take the slide off. It's still breaking the rules if only you know you're breaking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The rules are pretty clear that the replacement slide and barrel have to be the same shape, CALIBER, and contour as the original model. Your model is a .40, so you would have to replace the .40 barrel/slide with another .40 barrel/slide. From my extremely limited research the barrel/slide length and contour are the same, it's that caliber thing that is the problem. The receiver of my stock 3 is not marked 9mm. For all anyone knows, it could be either a 9mm or a .40. Right, it's the same as a Glock frame, which could be a 17, 22, 34, 35, 24, etc and you can't tell what it was originally once you take the slide off. It's still breaking the rules if only you know you're breaking them. Well...I wouldn't be one to knowingly break the rules, and I'm not an expert on USPSA rules so I learned something here today. I note that USPSA has been more generous with internal modifications because they are very difficult to enforce....seems to be the same thing here. Except, here you could substitute the 'difficult' part with impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 A couple of replies expressed interest in my source fir the Stock 3. I think he has a couple more. Pm me so I don't get into trouble. I have no connection to this dealer, only my purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 It a "BOY". 8lb spring and lighter hammer are next, along with longer pin and F/O sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanniek71 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Oh congrats on the new boy! He's sooooo cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb25 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The rules are pretty clear that the replacement slide and barrel have to be the same shape, CALIBER, and contour as the original model. Your model is a .40, so you would have to replace the .40 barrel/slide with another .40 barrel/slide. From my extremely limited research the barrel/slide length and contour are the same, it's that caliber thing that is the problem. The receiver of my stock 3 is not marked 9mm. For all anyone knows, it could be either a 9mm or a .40. Right, it's the same as a Glock frame, which could be a 17, 22, 34, 35, 24, etc and you can't tell what it was originally once you take the slide off. It's still breaking the rules if only you know you're breaking them. What exactly is the reasoning behind this rule? As far as I can tell, there's no safety concern and no performance advantage. I mean, why have a rule that has no purpose and is impossible to enforce? Isn't that pretty much the definition of a bad rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 What is the rule if you buy the frame and 4 caliber conversions. All long slides are the same shape and contour and length. All barrels are the same as well and all are sold be Tanfoglio in their standard Stock 3 pistols . Eric's hammer is production legal because it is made by the oem and used on the Extreme models . Well, the same slides are used as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippSpeed Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It a "BOY". 8lb spring and lighter hammer are next, along with longer pin and F/O sight. LORD I just got wood... I want one in 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 There is a 9mm Limited on gunbroker, haven't seen a 9mm on there for awhile http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=413718841 Sent from my flux capacitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Here it is with the 40sw and 9mm slides. Covers both Production and Limited. Worked up a load for 40 minor and will try it out in knock down steel on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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