Rosshooting Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I am asking for your opinion guys, what do you say, which is better choice for the standard division: SPS or BUL M5 pistols? I will appreciate your help! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosshooting Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 About the caliber – 40 S&W.(forgot to mention that sorry!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 STI and SV are one of the sweetest pistols there is so if can cough it up ide suggest you get those ...but SPS are also hard to beat for the money and quality have a good smith build you an SPS all will fall into place..goodluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I like the way the Bul frame fits my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I am with the Purple one....Bul feels better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosshooting Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 STI and SV are one of the sweetest pistols there is so if can cough it up ide suggest you get those ...but SPS are also hard to beat for the money and quality have a good smith build you an SPS all will fall into place..goodluck I definitely agree with you about SVI and STI but sadly there is no a dealer for these beauties in my country. It will be very difficult to me to order one from the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosshooting Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 And what about BUL, SPS and Tanfoglio Limited Custom? Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I've seen, handled and shot both. And from fit alone, my vote goes to SPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 it is really a personal preference. BULS are fine. They are light guns however. You have to contend with a little bit more muzzle flip compared with a heavy dust cover. I would try both side by side if there one available. I did switch to an SVI since a friend of mine sold his to me for a very good price with 6 mags. The thing I noticed about the heavy dust cover guns, I can track the sights a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullauto Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Hi, Tanfoglio Limited Custom HC is great too, it needs the arredondo mag kit to handle 17-18+1 though. I love them. - It's the cheapest pistol of them all, only thing is if you get it or not. In the states I've heard its difficult.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrala Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 And what about BUL, SPS and Tanfoglio Limited Custom? Which one? As from Tanfoglio, from what I see around here in Poland (some of my buddys own or owned Tanfoglios including Limited Custom HC), I wouldn't advice that, if you want something that actually works, not only look beautifull. Italian sports guns are like italian supercars: when they works, they are great. The key is word "when" - this doesn't happen to often. Unless you have acces to one specialy made to work, with constant service avaiable. I don't expect Tanfoglios sent to Bulgaria to be any better that ones avaiable in Poland (some people here suspect that we in Central/Eastern Europe get second or third quality grade from Tanfoglio, as some guns are inoperable straight from the box). On other hand Bul after some initial period of "bedding in" should work fine. On SPS - I'm also interested in opinions, as I'm considering one. For now I sold bouth my italian supercars I shot HK and drive BMW - may shoot and ride slower, but I do finish matches and travels - this introduces less stress into my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Buff Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Calling Sky.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I can't really relate first hand about Limited Custom .40" cal Tanfoglio. Most of my knowledge comes from what forummember Julien Boit told me once (I guess his source was EG himself), and several teammates that have had experience with it, thus take my words for what they are, with a grain of salt. The main problem with this gun is that sometimes the mag catch is poorly located. This leads to having the mag at a wrong height (usually low) to consistently and correctly presenting the round to the chamber. What happens is that with the top round sitting lower, the continous stripping process slightly widens the feed lips of the mags, giving all possible feeding problems. Usually all competitors, using this gun, blame the low quality of the mags, but in reality, if you have a gunsmith weld a bit (I've been told 1mm) the mag catch in the area it connects the mag slot, it will raise the mag of the correct amount, and the feeding problems should be solved. Apart from that, all Limited Custom users are very pleased by the ergonomy of its grip, and by the fact that, having the slide/frame rails inverted when compared to a common 1911 gun (I mean rails on the frame are inwards, and rails on the slide are outwards) this leads to a lower bore axis on the hand, thus less perceived recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullauto Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Sky, true. Until october 2003 Tanfoglio delivered the Limited Custom HC's with a small-notched magcatch. This worked for other calibers, but the .40 was very difficult to get working consistently. Many strange fixes to this pistol was introduced by a number of good and not so good gunsmiths all over to get it to work, but the final solution was to make the magcatch-notch which holds the magazine bigger, to push the magazine 1-1,5mm higher in the frame. I just sold mine, awaiting a new one - and they sure works :-). I didnt have a single feeding problem after installing the new magcatch, and the one who bought it from me is also very happy with it. Just make sure you get a gun produced in 2004, or if you get an older one - mail info@tanfoglio.it and ask for a new magcatch. It took 1 week for me (in Norway) after I mailed - until the new magcatch arrived in my mailbox. I shoot both 1911's and Tanfoglio's and I love both kinds. - Mostly Tanfoglio in matches - I like It's grip just alittle better, and I seem to hit better with it - and its easy to get a good trigger with original parts. It's much cheaper than shooting 1911's - you dont have many options, but the ones you have is designed and tested purely for IPSC (USPSA) shooting. It either works for you or not. Try one :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Ask Julien, if I'm not mistaken he has 2 sps frame. Mine is on the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 BTW, the latest from Charles Daly is the BULs will be here 2nd week in Feburary. I am not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 really!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I did suggest that the Government model come with a bushing barrel and leave the bull barrel in the IPSC gun. The Government model with a bushing barrel would work well in IDPA ESP. I would buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 i am the owner of SPS and in the last 12 months or so and the 25,000 rounds i put through it my advice for you is GO FOR THE SPS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I have heard that the SPS costs a good bit less than the overpriced STI/SVI guns. True? If so are they available in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 SPS are not available in the US. They are in violation of the STI/SV patent (which, due to a comedy of errors on STI's part is not in effect in Europe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I have heard that the SPS costs a good bit less than the overpriced STI/SVI guns. True? If so are they available in the US? I think it was mentioned somewhere here that SPS is infringing on some patents for STI/SVI. Hence, illegal for sale there in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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