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resetting 2011 dry-fire trigger


eric nielsen

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Most multi-shot drills in dryfire, the gun looks like this. Advantages: easy, allows mag changes. Disadvantage: pulling against only the return leaf is not realistic and doesn't built triggering skill like live fire does.

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I often dry-fired with the slide locked back on an Open or this Ltd gun, esp. one-handed. Advantages: pretty realistic 2-stage pull that starts with the return leaf then adds the sear leaf with full return/reset length. Disadvantages: draws from holster are iffy; mag changes could break your ejector, works your recoil spring a little, doesn't work on other platforms.

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Now I do this. Advantages: realistic pull/reset, allows safety manipulation, draws, mag changes; quiet (happy wife / happy life). Disadvantage: costs about 0.05 cents, if your grip safety isn't pinned, you also need another wrap of tape on that too.

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If you like it, give it a cool name like "the Nielsen trick". Only took me about 15 years to think of it... HTH

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I'm definitely going to go home and give that a try. Looks like something where a cut piece of bicycle tube would be perfect instead of having to tape it up each time. Why did you say you had to tape your grip safety too. If you let the grip safety release does it allow something in the ignition system to move?

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Not sure how far the hammer has to be back to lift the hammer hooks off the sear - all my grip safeties are pinned. If a de-activated, unpinned grip safety still allows this 2-stage take-up, then just go with that I guess. Like they say if you can just squeeze harder on a working grip safety, that's good too

I use about 3" of extremely cheap masking tape (1 wrap) and it holds the hammer for days at a time. If you have a low-friction hammer/sear engagement (a good trigger job) then the pull weight of the simulated 2-stage pull is about the same as your real trigger release.

Still, nothing beats live-fire for learning to reset and prep for tight shots. The FL state match had a stage where you do a bunch of crazy stuff and then run a few steps over to the left and engage 1 metric paper and 4 little round plates at 35 yards. I went 2 A's and 4 plates in 7 shots - the extra was one where I prepped a little too much & the gun surprised me.

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One thing this tape trick allows is 10x or 100x more reps in the same time at resetting between targets and settling the dots/sights into the next target with a prepped trigger. Also sometimes I set up easy target (slap, aka accelerated pull) and transition over to hard target (reset & prep then squeeze). If any of that is unclear here's a good video:

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Hold gun in strong hand, be sure grip safety is engaged. Squeeze trigger a few times w/hammer down.

Use left thumb to hold hammer all the way back as far as it will go. Squeeze trigger a few times back & forward again, slowly.

Those 2 things should feel different. If not, your trigger job is unlike all the 1911- pattern guns I've owned. My Cheely Ltd gun does have a sort of 2-stage feel with the hammer down (which is nice) but it's not the same reset point as live fire or with the hammer held back. The pull weight isn't the same either.

If your grip safety keeps going back on safe you probably won't get any benefit from a tape wrap or a ball of tape jammed in there.

This doesn't work on CZ or Tanfoglio or (as far as I know) any gun that lacks the 1911-type 3-leaf trigger/sear/grip-safety spring.

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I have a Nighthawk Custom Talon. When Hammer is down the trigger has a little travel - maybe an 1/8th inch. When the hammer is cocked, it has that same travel and breaks immediately at the end of that travel. When I hold the hammer all the way back it feels exactly like when the hammer is down.

This gun is barely a week old. My other gun is a Glock 34. With my Glock, I have been trying to figure out how to reset for multiple shots but I dont think it matters for the NightHawk. The trigger just seems perfect. Hahah. I may be missing something on this trick - but it doesn't seem to change the feel of pulling on the trigger

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Now - could someone please invent a magazine insert for a glock that has a piston adaptor thing to push the slide back enough for reset in dry fire sessions? Maybe propane powered?

You can get a resetting trigger for the Glock, but I realize that isn't exactly what you are asking for. This thing would take you a minute or so to swap out trigger groups with your normal trigger each time you wanted to use it. Just FYI in case you aren't aware of it as another approach to Glock resetting trigger.

http://www.glockstore.com/reset-trigger-kit-for-glock

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thanks trgt. I have heard mixed reviews on this resetting trigger. Have you used it? Its probably not that critical as long as you have the right mix of dry and live fire practice. My challenge is that most live fire is either in a match or at an indoor range in a shooting stall.....so transitions are tough to practice

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thanks trgt. I have heard mixed reviews on this resetting trigger. Have you used it? Its probably not that critical as long as you have the right mix of dry and live fire practice. My challenge is that most live fire is either in a match or at an indoor range in a shooting stall.....so transitions are tough to practice

The trick for the Glocks is to put something in the slide to keep it slightly out of battery.

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