cassidy Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just reloaded a batch of 100, 40 caliber rounds on a Dillon 650. Once completed I checked all of them with a case gauge and 32 rounds did not seat all the way in. During the reloading I made sure the handle traveled the full distance up/down. I'm new to reloading so any suggestion would help. The brass is once fired from a glock, and I have heard of problems with case bulge, so I'm not sure if that's an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Use your barrel, not the case gauge. If they drop in and out of the barrel, they are good to go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 More information needed. What decapping die are you using? Check bell of case, to much can bulge the case at he botttom. What bullet? OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Use your barrel, not the case gauge. If they drop in and out of the barrel, they are good to go.. While that works, it may still mask an issue with your reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Check this thread also - http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=182667&hl= Check some of your resized cases (not loaded), if they gauge it is a bullet/ crimp/ straightness issue. If they do not it may be a glocked brass issue or a die issue if so the Lee U-die or a push thru die like the Redding die or a CasePro may help (case pro is expensive though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Resizing/decapping die should be installed while the reloading press's ram is up. You should turn it in till it's touching the shell plate then back it off a hair, just enough so a thin sheet of paper can barely slide between the die and the shell plate. Run some brass through the sizing die and case check that brass. It should fit. If it does then you have a crimp issue or a bullet issue ( Not enough crimp, or bullets are too big in diameter.) If the resized brass doesn't fit then you have a brass issue. The Lee U die, http://www.egwguns.com/undersized-reloading-dies/undersized-reloading-dies/ may help. It would help if you provided more info like what make of bullets you are using also. A picture of the rounds that won't case gauge would help too. Edited October 5, 2013 by Red Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassidy Posted October 5, 2013 Author Share Posted October 5, 2013 I read another post where by using mixed brass its possible to have varying OAL. I checked the 32 rounds and they all are generally .010 longer, however they stick out of the case gauge .070, so that could be one issue. when I flip the round in the case gauge to fit in, so it appears the brass is straight on both ends. I am already loading a longer round at 1.135, so how long is two long. The 32 rounds that wont fit range from 1.143 to 1.148. - I'm using all Dillon parts, I checked the brass after stage one on the press and it fit the case gauge fine, again the brass is mixed once fired from glock and the bullets are precision delta 200gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) I read another post where by using mixed brass its possible to have varying OAL. I checked the 32 rounds and they all are generally .010 longer, however they stick out of the case gauge .070, so that could be one issue. when I flip the round in the case gauge to fit in, so it appears the brass is straight on both ends. I am already loading a longer round at 1.135, so how long is two long. The 32 rounds that wont fit range from 1.143 to 1.148. - I'm using all Dillon parts, I checked the brass after stage one on the press and it fit the case gauge fine, again the brass is mixed once fired from glock and the bullets are precision delta 200gr. If the sized brass fits in the case gauge just fine, then you have a crimp issue or a bullet issue. OR some case gauges in 40 are short and don't accommodate longer 40 bullets. Measure the case with a micrometer just before the bullet and make sure your crimp is acceptable, like .421. I don't load 40 so read your reloading book to see what acceptable 40 crimp is. Guess what? I do have a borrowed Infinity 40 Limited gun with a coffee can full of ammo. I just did some quick measurements. Lead flat point bullets 1.180 Long with a 0.421-0.422 crimp, and.............. They don't fit all the way into my EGW case gauge. ( I have a EGW multi caliber case gauge). They stick out of the gauge just below the rim. Damn! * I think you are good to go! * If you are worried about it, use your barrel as a case gauge. They should drop freely into the barrel and you should be able to spin them freely without the bullet engaging the rifling of the barrel! Edited October 5, 2013 by Red Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I read another post where by using mixed brass its possible to have varying OAL. I checked the 32 rounds and they all are generally .010 longer, however they stick out of the case gauge .070, so that could be one issue. when I flip the round in the case gauge to fit in, so it appears the brass is straight on both ends. I am already loading a longer round at 1.135, so how long is two long. The 32 rounds that wont fit range from 1.143 to 1.148. - I'm using all Dillon parts, I checked the brass after stage one on the press and it fit the case gauge fine, again the brass is mixed once fired from glock and the bullets are precision delta 200gr. If the sized brass fits in the case gauge just fine, then you have a crimp issue or a bullet issue. OR some case gauges in 40 are short and don't accommodate longer 40 bullets. Measure the case with a micrometer just before the bullet and make sure your crimp is acceptable, like .421. I don't load 40 so read your reloading book to see what acceptable 40 crimp is.Guess what? I do have a borrowed Infinity 40 Limited gun with a coffee can full of ammo. I just did some quick measurements. Lead flat point bullets 1.180 Long with a 0.421-0.422 crimp, and.............. They don't fit all the way into my EGW case gauge. ( I have a EGW multi caliber case gauge). They stick out of the gauge just below the rim. Damn! * I think you are good to go! * If you are worried about it, use your barrel as a case gauge. They should drop freely into the barrel and you should be able to spin them freely without the bullet engaging the rifling of the barrel! See post #2 above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) I read another post where by using mixed brass its possible to have varying OAL. I checked the 32 rounds and they all are generally .010 longer, however they stick out of the case gauge .070, so that could be one issue. when I flip the round in the case gauge to fit in, so it appears the brass is straight on both ends. I am already loading a longer round at 1.135, so how long is two long. The 32 rounds that wont fit range from 1.143 to 1.148. - I'm using all Dillon parts, I checked the brass after stage one on the press and it fit the case gauge fine, again the brass is mixed once fired from glock and the bullets are precision delta 200gr. If the sized brass fits in the case gauge just fine, then you have a crimp issue or a bullet issue. OR some case gauges in 40 are short and don't accommodate longer 40 bullets. Measure the case with a micrometer just before the bullet and make sure your crimp is acceptable, like .421. I don't load 40 so read your reloading book to see what acceptable 40 crimp is.Guess what? I do have a borrowed Infinity 40 Limited gun with a coffee can full of ammo. I just did some quick measurements. Lead flat point bullets 1.180 Long with a 0.421-0.422 crimp, and.............. They don't fit all the way into my EGW case gauge. ( I have a EGW multi caliber case gauge). They stick out of the gauge just below the rim. Damn! * I think you are good to go! * If you are worried about it, use your barrel as a case gauge. They should drop freely into the barrel and you should be able to spin them freely without the bullet engaging the rifling of the barrel! See post #2 above... Show off. Rub it in Marvin. Edited October 6, 2013 by Red Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtuns Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 No to high jack your thread but I have 40 rounds that drop in my Lyman case gage but don't plunk in my Barsto barrel. From what I see bullets sre a little crooked found this by using high spot blue in chamber. Im using rcbs seating die just got a hornady seater to try. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 No to high jack your thread but I have 40 rounds that drop in my Lyman case gage but don't plunk in my Barsto barrel. From what I see bullets sre a little crooked found this by using high spot blue in chamber. Im using rcbs seating die just got a hornady seater to try. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 I recently (yesterday) had my first crooked bullet. I am not sure why but the bullet seated a little off center and would not case gauge. First one in 25,000+ reloaded rounds. It passed through my mind, but I don't think this was Cassidy's problem. But he should take note of the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The words above GrumpyOne's photo translates to " A word to the wise is annoying ". Just incase you wanted to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hunter S. Thompson...A word to the wise is infuriating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapemeister Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The words above GrumpyOne's photo translates to " A word to the wise is annoying ". Just incase you wanted to know. Since meeting the Grumpyone a few years ago a I've suspected he's CIA, but I'll keep that to myself. He sandbags his shooting so as to not arouse suspicion. Anyhow, he's an experienced and knowledgeable hand loader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Since meeting the Grumpyone a few years ago a I've suspected he's CIA, but I'll keep that to myself. He sandbags his shooting so as to not arouse suspicion. Anyhow, he's an experienced and knowledgeable hand loader. I won't argue the experienced and knowledgeable loader part, but a word to the wise, I wouldn't use the word "sandbagging" to Grumpy. Edited October 6, 2013 by Youngeyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The words above GrumpyOne's photo translates to " A word to the wise is annoying ". Just incase you wanted to know. Since meeting the Grumpyone a few years ago a I've suspected he's CIA, but I'll keep that to myself. He sandbags his shooting so as to not arouse suspicion. Anyhow, he's an experienced and knowledgeable hand loader. I've been lurking on this forum for 4 years now and have personally experienced the frank sarcasm he exhibits. I like his style with words. I do pay attention to what he says and I have surmised that he must be a finely skilled hand loader. But I was thinking more NSA than CIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The words above GrumpyOne's photo translates to " A word to the wise is annoying ". Just incase you wanted to know. Since meeting the Grumpyone a few years ago a I've suspected he's CIA, but I'll keep that to myself. He sandbags his shooting so as to not arouse suspicion. Anyhow, he's an experienced and knowledgeable hand loader. I've been lurking on this forum for 4 years now and have personally experienced the frank sarcasm he exhibits. I like his style with words. I do pay attention to what he says and I have surmised that he must be a finely skilled hand loader. But I was thinking more NSA than CIA! You guys jest....but I have done work for the NSA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 National Sarcastic Association? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 National Sarcastic Association?[/size] I could tell you...but then I'd have to kill you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Never Shoots A's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinoyShooter06 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Just reloaded a batch of 100, 40 caliber rounds on a Dillon 650. Once completed I checked all of them with a case gauge and 32 rounds did not seat all the way in. During the reloading I made sure the handle traveled the full distance up/down. I'm new to reloading so any suggestion would help. The brass is once fired from a glock, and I have heard of problems with case bulge, so I'm not sure if that's an issue. I am using LEE U-Die for my decapping/ sizer die and works perfect. but I still use a case gage just to make sure. I only use my barrel if my rounds doesn't go all the way or doesn't fit the case gauge. but even if it will fit the barrel I still separate it for practice. By the way i use Dillon and EGW case gauge Edited October 9, 2013 by PinoyShooter06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just reloaded a batch of 100, 40 caliber rounds on a Dillon 650. Once completed I checked all of them with a case gauge and 32 rounds did not seat all the way in. During the reloading I made sure the handle traveled the full distance up/down. I'm new to reloading so any suggestion would help. The brass is once fired from a glock, and I have heard of problems with case bulge, so I'm not sure if that's an issue. I am using LEE U-Die for my decapping/ sizer die and works perfect. but I still use a case gage just to make sure. I only use my barrel if my rounds doesn't go all the way or doesn't fit the case gauge. but even if it will fit the barrel I still separate it for practice. By the way i use Dillon and EGW case gauge This is exactly my practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I've heard of case gauges, but with lee sizers and FCD, I just don't have an issue. I do chamber-check every round for a major match, and i found 2 or 3 out of 1200 last month that didn't 'plunk' solidly enough for me (+1 split case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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