Hunga88 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) USPSA should open a modified division, it would push gun/shooter/gunsmith to the absolute limit of their abilities and result in innovation/technology to develop the sport beyond what we have now. Barrel length and sight radius could shrink to buy added capacity or vice versa, if it fits in the box(how ever it fits) shoot it, works much better than the magazine gauge we have now. People may say it is a gamer division but I think it is the reason that IPSC started, because what is a modified gun other than just the best of the best modern day fighting pistol?And they just look AWESOME... Edited October 1, 2013 by Hunga88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flack jacket Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Makes sense. Look at what people are building for combat gun using Glock / M&P CORE series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 This comes up from time to time, and every time it gets shut down by someone who has actually shot a Modified gun (I haven't) who says they are awful to shoot, and that's why competitors steer clear of the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 just shoot your mod gun in open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunga88 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 just shoot your mod gun in open It would obviously out classed by full sized open guns, using 9major with 170mm tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It would obviously out classed by full sized open guns, using 9major with 170mm tubes. Its not that bad. I broke out the mod gun every once in a while in Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The modified division was so popular in IPSC that they killed it. Why would we want to bring it back here in the US? I feel like we already have too many divisions, let's not add another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 just shoot your mod gun in open What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunga88 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) The modified division was so popular in IPSC that they killed it. Why would we want to bring it back here in the US? I feel like we already have too many divisions, let's not add another one. Agree but why not just make it a sub division of open kind of like Limited and L10, Open and O(M) Edited October 1, 2013 by Hunga88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Because there are only a handful of Mod guns out there. People don't really like the division as it combines the worst of open with the worst of limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormondopen Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 wish I still had mine. they are a blast to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The modified division was so popular in IPSC that they killed it. Why would we want to bring it back here in the US? I feel like we already have too many divisions, let's not add another one. Agree but why not just make it a sub division of open kind of like Limited and L10, Open and O(M) Limited and L10 are 2 separate divisions. L10 is not a sub division of Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) wish I still had mine. they are a blast to shoot. They do make a blast, spit a little fire too Edited October 1, 2013 by Supermoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Ipsc dropped the division. Maybe there were reasons? I don't know a lot about modified, other that they appear to be smaller open guns. Why not just shoot it in open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Modified is cool (and I am the 2011 US Modified Champion, so there ). It is also not for everyone. The equipment rules are simple-- do what you want that fits in the box with a mag in. You get to decide if you prefer round count over barrel length or sight type. It's a division where the guns don't all pretty much look like each other. But they are by no means competitive in Open-- a stubby .40 cal with a half-way functional comp? Not happening. At the extreme end they are also quite fragile-- how many rounds do you want to run? My World Shoot gun cracked the slide in 7000 rounds. IPSC killed it for a variety of reasons that didn't seem to have a lot to do with its popularity. If so, Revo would have been gone way sooner. It had a pretty sizable contingent in Europe and South America. Shooting wise, Mod is indeed the worst of Open and Limited put together, but some people like a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunga88 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Modified is cool (and I am the 2011 US Modified Champion, so there ). It is also not for everyone. The equipment rules are simple-- do what you want that fits in the box with a mag in. You get to decide if you prefer round count over barrel length or sight type. It's a division where the guns don't all pretty much look like each other. But they are by no means competitive in Open-- a stubby .40 cal with a half-way functional comp? Not happening. At the extreme end they are also quite fragile-- how many rounds do you want to run? My World Shoot gun cracked the slide in 7000 rounds. IPSC killed it for a variety of reasons that didn't seem to have a lot to do with its popularity. If so, Revo would have been gone way sooner. It had a pretty sizable contingent in Europe and South America. Shooting wise, Mod is indeed the worst of Open and Limited put together, but some people like a challenge. Do you think it would survive as a USPSA division? What if people started using their Mod guns in their local matches with a separate scored division, but classifiers entered as open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AICS308 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think we have too many divisions now in USPSA. I remember the good ole days of only Open and Limited. The competition between shooters was much better then. Shoot what you have. You can always get better by shooting more matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 when it was part of ipsc it was never carried over to uspsa, now that they killed it I can't see that it would be anymore popular here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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