surgdog Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi, guys. Just started into revolvers and have a 627 38 super that needs trigger job, hammer bob and cylinder chamfer. I live in Central Mississippi and the local guru has retired and not taking any more work. I email Mike Carmoney yesterday and he is not doing the work any longer. Apex is not taking this kind of work. There is a company in Princeton, Louisana that I can't find the name right now that does the work and I was wondering if y'all had any rec for them or someone else around this area. Thank you, mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I know a guy in Oklahoma. Try Harold. www.150x.com. He is an ICORE shooter as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I think the company you are looking for is Clark Custom Guns. Jerry Miculek is married to Kay Clark. They are pretty good with revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgdog Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 I think the company you are looking for is Clark Custom Guns. Jerry Miculek is married to Kay Clark. They are pretty good with revolvers. That is it. I hope that is a tongue in cheek remark about "pretty good with revolvers":) Thanks, I will give them a call and see what there wait time is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcman Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Paul Francis is my revosmith (bosshoss on this forum). I've had 4 done by him. One came from Sandburr Ranch and I still took it to Paul. In my opinion he's one of the best in the business and knows exactly what comp shooters are looking for, as he is a comp shooter himself (USPSA/ICORE/Steel). I think he was a machinist professionally before retiring. He also works very fast, I've never had a revo with him past two weeks. Doesn't have an FFL (yet), so something will have to be worked out for shipping but I think you'll find it's well worth it. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showuser=30908 Here's a few pics of his metal work. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177904 Edited July 29, 2013 by sbcman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgdog Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks, SB. I will try to locate him and give him a call as well. Appreciate all the replies. mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-gun Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 mk, I had my 627 .38 super trigger work done originally by Clarks. It was reasonably priced, decent turn around, and good. I shot it that way for a few years. Then I sent it to Mike for full "Carmonizing" and really liked it. But I suspect Mr. Carmoney is an equally talented attorney so he may remain in demand and stuck at his desk rather than his smithing bench. Good for his clients. Too bad for us. FWIW - to whomever you send it, you might have them check your crown for any little burrs, and see if your forcing cone is square. I was unaware of both of those issues until another shooting friend/smith discovered and fixed them. They made a notable improvement in the accuracy of the gun. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgdog Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks for the reply Mike and the info on the crown. Are you saying you recommend Clark's? Being a brand new revolver shooter I'm not in a class where I would probably notice a .25# trigger pull difference. I now my trigger pull now is long and hard and reloading is a pain (likely from inexperience) but also for needing a cylinder chamfer. Looking for a reliable, quick competition job. mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-gun Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I only have experience with Clarks and Mr. Carmoney so it wouldn't be to the exclusion of anyone else out there. Since you can't carmonize, I could still recommend Clarks based upon my experience at the time. I don't recall if they reamed the cylinders. I assume they chamfered them. I know Mike went all back through it, checking timing, new trigger stop, and of course dremeled my hammer good. How much work he did first or touched up some of theirs, I don't know/recall. To me it seemed good. Then it got even better. But I only had @ half of my hammer left so it's probably not a fair comparison. Re: trigger pull weight, for me, and it seems others, lighter is better but not the only goal. Smooooooth action, 100% ignition, and a proper balance between main spring and rebound spring weights are also important for proper trigger pull and ultimately your hits and scores. A good smith will help with those too. And dry firing a few thousands times while throwing in dummy moons a few hundred times couldn't hurt either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Doesn't have an FFL (yet), so something will have to be worked out for shipping but I think you'll find it's well worth it. Listen, I don't want to sound critical and I have absolutely no dog in this fight personally, but anybody who is working on other people's guns in exchange for compensation needs to have an FFL in order to be in compliance with federal law. This is not something to mess around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I second Harold at 150x.com he has done all my gun work since Mike went to the dark side. His web site needs to be updated but I can attest that his work is top notch. He has shot and built ppc guns for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcman Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Doesn't have an FFL (yet), so something will have to be worked out for shipping but I think you'll find it's well worth it. Listen, I don't want to sound critical and I have absolutely no dog in this fight personally, but anybody who is working on other people's guns in exchange for compensation needs to have an FFL in order to be in compliance with federal law. This is not something to mess around with. I remember you explaining that issue somewhere in the enosphere a while back. It was educational and shed light on things most would never had thought of. If I can find it I'll post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyatPC Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hi All, Will those gunsmith fix someone else's butcher job? I like 4" S&W and bought a 4" barrel off Ebay. The seller is "gunsmith" with web site/shop in AL and It's an hour drive from home (thinking great deal). So, I mailed my 686 with 6" barrel to him, he installed new barrel, an action job and radius the cylinder. This will be my IDPA gun. The work look fair but the revolver miss fired one round every cylinder full. I found an extra wolf reduce power spring to fix that problem. Then I start rest shooting for accuracy - about 2.25 " at 20 yards - very poor compared to the 6" barrel. Also, the revolver is spiting lead - I get a ridge at the end on the outside of the cylinder. So, will a good smith take on a butcher job? or should I just sale at pawn shop or keep for car gun and buy new S&W 686 SSR. I have $1200.00 in it right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I still recommend 150x (405) 620-1570 my last gun was a redo of someone else's work... did a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyinAZ Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 So there is a shop in the northern part of California that tinkers with Smith Revos a bit. APEX tactical specialties is the name. They have sub-5 pound double action trigger jobs that are glass smooth & work. A few big names in the pro revolver circles are wielding Apex's guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Apex isn't currently taking in work other than j-frame carry or M&P work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyinAZ Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I don't find that to be true as I have n - frames there now. call them and ask, they do still take in work. and finish it quickly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgdog Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Thanks, Scotty. Their website does say they are not taking in any new work as Pat said but certainly worth a call. Appreciate the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyinAZ Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yes the web says that. I'm not sure why but I called last week & sent in my 627 Monday. Got a call Thursday, it's almost done. 4.5# double action amazingness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgdog Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yes the web says that. I'm not sure why but I called last week & sent in my 627 Monday. Got a call Thursday, it's almost done. 4.5# double action amazingness. WOW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockCanMan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I have been fortunate to have a couple of my wheel guns "Carmonized". I have also used https://www.geminicustoms.com/ Marc does good work and he does know revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&WIowegan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Go ahead and try Clark Custom. I believe I heard recently they're so busy they only take 1911 work. Give them a call and find out for sure. Bob IA203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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