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We had that set up at a match only you had to do it from prone and through a barrel at the end of a long running field course. It was from some distance too. It was discovered that the faster way was to knock off the bottom two that were visible, possibly wait for a third, then quickly rip off the two or three shots to "engage" the remaining steel and just take the mikes. The people who shot it before and were furiously chasing the steel with round after round as it would spin by were not very happy. Answer to OP, clockwise from top to bottom. I used to go head, shoulders, knees and toes, but I've been convinced sticking to one side and letting them come to me is more consistent and can still be done fast.

Revolver guy here. Because I carry all my moonclips in front, I put the inner belt on normally, then position the holster on my hip and wrap the outer belt around with the overlap in back. Side note, for me, in the morning I put the inner belt on a bit more snuggly because it seems as I run around, sweat, etc, things settle in and the whole rig starts to feel looser than I'd like. Take out that slack up front and it saves you having to bag up and retighten with all your stuff already on the outer belt.

From a tip I think I got here, I have a Flambeau utility box. Model number 4006. I bought it at Lowe's for a whopping $3. And it holds 30 loaded .38 super moons like it was made for it. Fits in the bottom of my bag as well.

Yep, I was doing pretty well on that stage too until, as a buddy said, I "went to battle with that spinner." That 45 second deduction was too hard to pass up. But then once you pass the point of no return and are chucking good lead after bad, you are just trying to cut your losses. Unless you don't... It was ugly. I think I'm going to try 4.2 grains of WInchester 231, 160 grain .357 bayou at 1.25 oal. Supposed to be power factor of @ 152. But more importantly, the plan is to not miss. And I'll check out Shooting Times. Thank you.

Anyone have a little hotter 160 grain 38 super load? There's a particular steel spinner that stole my lunch at a match and I need to crush it next time. I have 160 gr .357 bayou's, and on hand I have clays, 231, and titegroup. Thanks.

If things go as planned in Steel Challenge, you shouldn't have to do any reloads on the clock. But +1 on the round nose bullets. Most revolver shooters I know use round nose of some weight or maker. Lots of round gun information in the Revolver Forum too.

Petef, if you haven't found it already, in the Revolver Forum there should be plenty of information and 929 owners willing to share intel. Just scroll down further. Just past USPSA/IPSC rules.

I agree that you have to use what feels right and works for you. I have always reloaded strong hand. It was probably influenced by Jerry Miculek videos and him describing how he felt it kept both hands doing something in order to get the reload done and back to shooting. You do have to re-grip every time but it just felt right and more consistently repeatable to me. It also had me choosing smooth grips and (also a Miculek trick) putting some corn starch on my hands before LAMR to keep them dry but also provide just a bit of slip so if necessary you can wiggle your way back to the optimal grip. You'll see weak hand reloaders more often with finger grooves, stippling, checkers, etc. since they can maintain their optimal grip. I am mindful of how and where I'll reload on a stage so I don't threaten the 180. All things being equal, it has me choosing to move left to right if I can in a stage so my left/weak side is more within the 180 so I can turn my chest to my next shooting position and run directly to it while reloading. I also think strong hand reloaders can get closer to breaking the vertical 180 by leaning the barrel too far back when dumping the moon. Other data to consider - for weak hand, I've seen friends start to auger a hole in their left palm because the timer-adrenaline has them pounding the ejector rod way harder that they probably would in dry-fire. Some wear a fingerless glove on their left hand for that reason. I've also seen fingerless gloves on strong hand reloaders because you're getting your finger in by the forcing cone and are holding a cylinder that on a high round count summer day can get pretty warm.

Welcome stuey93 from another southern Californian. If you haven't found them already, lots of good shooting around. Pala, Prado, Piru, Gopher Flats. USPSA, steel, revolver, Glock. Find a clear weekend day and you can normally find a match.

Something other than load/crimp/moons to check - technique. I noticed a had to push/jiggle in a couple reloads at a match. I happened to have my brother there who videotaped that stage. When I watched the video, I noticed on those reloads I didn't have the gun near as vertical as I thought it was when I was dropping the moon. So the moons would hang up just a bit. That crazy timer beep at the match explains the rushing and not getting the cylinder in the right position for the drop. And it also explains your indication of the same loads/moons dropping in the same dirty gun after the match. Answer - it's the beep's fault. But dry firing and being mindful of this under match pressure can help too.

+1 re: avoiding hand-on-ball friction. I used to put a glove on my handle hand as it made it more comfortable for long reloading sessions. Then I got the Dillon roller handle. I got the plastic handled one because at the time I think it had a different shaped handle than the aluminum model and after discussion with a friendly Dillon rep, I chose the plastic. I've been happy. It may have just been me but be aware that I think the roller handle allows you to more easily put leverage/power into the stroke because I wasn't being very careful once and crunched in a crooked primer and set it off. At little startling but no worse for wear.

I only shoot the revolver competitively so maybe it's a revolver thing, with the longer trigger pull, but with my limited revolver I was a canter. It wasn't sp much about speed. It was more about accuracy, which in ICORE scoring could hurt/help your score even more than other disciplines. I could just hold the sights more steadily and roll off more consistently accurate hits with the gun tilted about the amount SCTaylor noted when you point at a wall. BUT, then I started shooting open revolver. Now it may just be me and I need to practice more (I know I do.) but I occasionally had difficulty finding the dot when canted on SHO and WHO so I'm back to the plumb crowd. Plus, as a side note, with my big aim point red dot being notably higher from the barrel than my limited sights were, I think I'm more open to having my point of aim affected when I'm moving the barrel out from under the dot to one side or the other.

On WHO and SHO, a tip that really helped me is to make a fist with the empty hand and tuck it into your opposite chest and hold it there with tension. Creates a girdle of muscles in shoulders/chest/back that help you better stabilize the gun hand. And since you have to take time to switch hands and normally reload anyway, you'll have time to shift your feet to put which ever foot is the side holding the gun more forward than the other. That's helped me too but you can try it and see if it works for you. Practice this in live fire and dry fire and you'll begin to crush those that don't.

I have a notebook I use to keep track of the data for each reloading session so I can note performance/accuracy of the load, any issues, or any tinkering with the recipe. Depending on how many rounds I have loaded on the shelf I can get within a hundred or so of how many rounds through each gun. So when you get into the thousands, that's pretty exactish.

Welcome from another 10 round limited left coaster.

Hi SpamAndEggs, Welcome. When my family of 5 life permits, I'll shoot at Pala, or Prado, or west coast steel in Piru. But my favorite is shooting with my revolver buddies in California Wheelburners up in Piru. I started with my brother lending me a revolver and reloading ammo for me. Then he helped me set up my 650. There's the initial investment and set up hump to get over but it's worth it. Now I'm a few guns and about 20k rounds further down the road. When the stars align and I can go, I'll be the tall guy with Wheelburner shirt and the open gun with the round part in the middle. Mike

That's a bummer about the fisheye. I've had that happen on glasses that were off for some reason. I'd think it would be correctable, mine were. And I'd hope ESS would want you to be happy. I have regular prescription glasses I use for shooting b/c I got tired of my contacts drying out. But they're not wrap around style. And every time I go downrange and a jagged lead Frisbee comes zinging over the berm from the next bay, I wish they were. So I was just a few steps behind you because I was considering the ESS with the inserts. Price was great because I already had the glasses from a prize table and would just need the insert and lenses. But every time I've got glasses they take all sorts of measurements and mark on the lenses for the position of my eyes. So I was wondering, it that was necessary, how would ESS do that through the mail. So I talked to my eye dr. about it and he said to bring glasses and blank in and they'd fit it to me and cut the lens. So I think that's what I'll do. Hope yours works out.

Kids. Unloaded.

I had a great time shooting and working in Fallon. I have a friend that lives in Naples Fl. I could visit. That being said... MORRO BAY. MORRO BAY. MORRO BAY. (where's a Jedi mind trick emoticon? ooh, how about )

Motocross and mountain bike for enjoyment and all over fitness. Taught myself to juggle years ago bc I was impressed by my older cousins who could. I think it really helped the hand/eye. Without thinking about it, I've dropped things and caught them before they hit the deck. Some were surprisingly quick and ninja worthy.

I'm riding up with my dad and we were deciding between driving his AWD ridgeline or mom's accord. He'd rather take the accord for mpg. Any concerns with roads going into the range such that AWD truck is better choice? If there's any weather?

I like the "that was jerry miculek sh!t right there..." Only that jerry slouch uses a red dot. Well done!

I originally put the big butt on because of the 50 yard prone shot on Far and Near. Putting that hunk of wood down into the ground lets you use it like a turret. Much more stable, and more predictable accuracy for long shots squeezed off under a stingy par time. Now my hands are used to it and I like it for everything.

Probably 6-7 lbs. Carmonized and smooth like butta. And well seated federal spp only and always.

I'd had the same issue. Also the blue ones wouldn't quite fit on the center hub of the BMT. Didn't want to fault either TK or BMT and with a bit off file/sanding I got them to go. They could be tough to load/unload. I had ordered some of the stainless clips. Interestingly they were marked 929 9mm but from a call to Tom K. I was told they would work. And they do. And I just ordered 20 more so I can have a shiny lot of 30 stainless moons loaded for each match. FYI there's a string here on enos about a Flambeau utility box from Lowe's that holds all thirty perfectly. For 3 bucks. Brilliant. I've loaded moons in all sorts of ways and I really like the BMT. And I like the idea of only having one load/unload cam on the BMT. May have to try it and that could put the blue clips back in the rotation.