Flexmoney Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 Will they hurt the barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 I was always told to use a wooden rod to remove and to push from the chamber end, is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 I use a brass rod and just drop it in the muzzle. The only squibs I seem to get are powderless so the bullet has only just engaged the rifling. They come out pretty easily and don't seem to damage anything P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted August 7, 2001 Share Posted August 7, 2001 I use a brass rod as well and have not has any problems removing squibs (when they rarely occur). A wooden rod will work but it better be a hardwood as sometimes squibs can be tough to get out. If it's just the primer pushing the bullet, it generally will not push the bullet too far in the barrel (1/4" to 1/2"). I would think the lead bullets will go in a little further than the jacketed due to being softer to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Bone Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 I've never had one and pray I never do. I find it a little odd that it has happened enough times that you ask the question and feel the need to carry a squib rod around with you. Granted I'm all about being prepared but maybe we should be talking about your reloading equipment and/or technique that has allowed this to happen (appearantly more than once). Surely you realize that this is a dangerous situation and should be a freak accident and something that would happen only once in a blue moon. Not a common conversation piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 No you have it all wrong. If you have squib rod with you you won't get a squib. I think it is the same force that makes the sun come out as you are stepping in the box right after you just switched to your clear glasses. I use my squib rod to push the rag through my mags when I clean them. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Come on Bill all this time I thought that was just a result of your charming personality! I know it was Jim's fault that it rained all through Todd's class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nmchenry Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Usually they won't hurt the barrel if you are lucky enough to catch them before another bullet is fired. However, I know of a fellow who bought some reloads from a guy and had several (6-8) squibs. By the last one his barrel had gotten damaged beyond safe use. I have had 3 squibs out of 10,000 rounds and that is 3 too many. I am being much more careful about my reloads now. Fortunately my gun has been good about not accepting the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 I saw the two versions of squib loads. A friend of mine, who's a specialist for this , is always lucky that the next round can not be chambered . Another friend just noticed that his glock's barrel had been seriously damaged and he must replace it after a bullet pushed another inside the barrel. A third friend destroyed a Glock 18 , the full auto version of the G17, he reloaded ammos with "really hot" SP primers but no powder inside one case. The round goes, but the bullet stopped just before the ports , the gun cycled (bad luck) and chambered another round full of powder, and KABOOM ! The gun is now a nice piece of artwork ! My advice is ALWAYS CHECK FOR POWDER in the case ! ! DVC Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted September 10, 2001 Share Posted September 10, 2001 I've had squibs from factory rounds. Sooner or later it will happen anyone who shoots a lot. So you might as well carry a squib rod around so that you can finish the match. I've also seen guns blow up from them. The shooter has never been hurt as much as the guy next to him on the firing line (Edited by John Thompson at 10:29 pm on Sep. 9, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted September 10, 2001 Share Posted September 10, 2001 If you can, make or buy a squib rod from brass or aluminum, and as large a diameter as will fit down the bore. I've fixed squibs shooters had screwed up with steel rods. The last guy lodged a 158 gr JSP partway up the bore of his S&W M-19. He used a steel cleaning rod to knock it out, and simply punched the core and base of the jacket out, leaving the cylindrical part of the jacket behind. One of the things about being as gunsmith for a long time is the store of specialized tools you build/dream up. My specialty 38/357 squib jackted tool is an aluminum rod with a cap made from a .32acp case. I turned the rim of the case until it just fits the bore, and it drifts the jacket out nicely. Thank goodness he didn't try to get the edge of the rod to "bite" into the case, or he'd have knarfed his bore for sure. That was five years ago. He moved after he brought it in, left no forwarding address, and I've had it in the safe ever since. I've got a few more like that, I "own" them but can't sell them without going through the hassle of a mechanics lein. Anyway, think large-diameter to avoid lost jackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted May 11, 2002 Author Share Posted May 11, 2002 3rd into a 18rd field course. Shootin my G35. Light minor PF load. The squib went pffffffttt and I thought I had a light primer strike for some reason. Racked the slide, POW, click..... now the gun is locked? Struggle to unlock gun with no success. Finaly turn to RO and say I'm done. Upon further inspection, barrel is bulged about 1.5 in from muzzel and no rounds left in it. 2nd pushed first out. I was able to remove the barrel by removing the extractor. Barrel is ruined but it looks like everything else is ok. IF THE GUN GOES "POP" (or pfffffttt), YOU MUST STOP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Hemphill Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 I had my one and only squib a couple of months ago at during a practice. I almost did the same thing you did. I had just done a reload, and on the second round I heard what I thought was a dry click. I did a quick tap rack, and suddenly thought "STOP!" Thankfully I did. I cleared the gun and found a bullet just past the chamber, allowing the next round to chamber. I was shocked to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bulm5 Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 did the RO even realize that it was a squib load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted May 12, 2002 Author Share Posted May 12, 2002 Nope, he argued with me when I told him what I thought had happened (before I knew). He is a M class shooter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted May 12, 2002 Author Share Posted May 12, 2002 Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT blaming the RO. It was my hand on the press handle and my finger on the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted May 12, 2002 Author Share Posted May 12, 2002 Looking at the bright side. I'm so happy that it was my G35 I was shooting and not my new SVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Rock Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Singlestack, It's one of those things that if you shoot and reload long enough everone will encounter. I had the exact same thing happen to me back in December. Only it was on a 1911. I never felt or heard the difference in the first round the second knocked both bullets out of the barrel, but left the gun locked tighter than a drum, trashed the barrel, thus the motivation to drop the comp and go to L-10. The good thing is it was'nt any worse and you still have all you fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 SS, Check this out. http://www.printroom.com/EditAlbumPhoto.as...;image_id=0/img If that does not work, email me and I will send a selection of juicy dead SVI photos direct. Richard (Edited by gm iprod at 4:03 am on May 14, 2002) (Edited by gm iprod at 4:07 am on May 14, 2002) (Edited by gm iprod at 4:07 am on May 14, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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