Steve Anderson Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Wait until scoring is complete before pasting ANY targets. If you must do something, set the steel up and pick the brass, but for the love of God... WAIT UNTIL SCORING IS COMPLETE TO PASTE ANY TARGETS. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Bagoly Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 What is the major problem? We don't run into a lot of trouble. Waiting to paste will add a small bit if time to every run. A Bad Thing if your schedule is not generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 - Have to have someone re-shoot the stage eats up all the time saved. - ...and isn't fair to the competitors. Good or bad...the first runought to count. - another thing is that the score keepers sometimes makes the call, without the shooter getting a chance to see thier own hits. Sometimes there is disagreement. (Edited by Flexmoney at 9:31 pm on Oct. 6, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 In our club matches the shooters who care usually trail the R.O. Sometimes the pasters will protest a called target for the shooter. New R.O.s need to be on their (score calling) toes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 The problem can be solved by the RO telling the shooters on the squad exactly which way the are going to score the stage during the walk through. The shooter SHOULD follow the RO to each target, don't paste until the shooter looks at the target. Takes the same amount of time and prevents any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 Ro gets done calling the hits, and there's an empty target line, targets are already pasted. Result: 2 alpha or a reshoot, depending on club. So easily avoided by waiting to paste until the scoresheet is correct. Also prevents ANY possibility of the "buddy- pastes early- to- get- his- friend- a- reshoot" nonsense. Do you really want to reshoot a smokin' run because the clipboarder made an honest mistake? Do you want to lose a close stage, even at a local club match because the ro gave your rival 2 alpha on a missing target? If pasting is slowed a little, that's a small price to pay for truly accurate scoring. We can set/paint steel, pick brass and WAIT 45 seconds to get the stage scored properly the first time. Thanks, I feel a little better now. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 i lost the ohio sectional because of this very reason steve. i too recommend pasting after the scoring is complete but sometimes it's difficult to tell the pasters to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I saw a guy run past 2 targets, 4 mikes, 2 procedurals, at WS, but he got a reshoot for prem pasting! Talk about luck, I hope I get my share some day! P.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 I once taped The Great One's targets at the Nationals, right after he shot a great run. Man, talk about wanting to crawl in a hole... be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted October 8, 2002 Author Share Posted October 8, 2002 Do we need anymore proof than that? I rest my rant. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Steve You are not going to get the squad to wait to paste the entire stage until scoring is complete. I know what you are saying but unless it is changed to a rule. Ain't happening. What you must do is follow the RO through the stage scoring. When you see an problem ask for clarification. This can never prevent a premature pasting like Brian did and you will do as we all have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 They waited at the 2001 Limited Nationals...other than that, I haven't seen it. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 I shot a match a few weks ago where the SCORER was scoring and taping before the RO and I had come back from downrange! They had apparently been doing this with every squad, so it was "OK". If have these "time-savers" quit bullshietting and direct the squad more efficiently, they'd save more than they'd know what to do with. "..Who's are next shooter?....I don't know ..who has the paper?...hell I thought you had it...Oops I left it in the bucket at the last stage....well what about the timer? I don't have it ,..do you? Nope...hmmm.. I gotta'n idea, let's tape the targets early to save time Ralph! Good idea Fred!.." :fumming icon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Bagoly Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Quote: from Flexmoney on 9:52 am on Oct. 8, 2002 They waited at the 2001 Limited Nationals...other than that, I haven't seen it. :/ My squad was not waiting at the 2001 LimNats. All the CRO's told us the order the targets would be scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Most of the stages @ this year's RGN were run that way also Rich. It helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
down0 Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 We didn't wait to paste at our stages at the Nationals this year unless we had a miss or a hit to a non-threat. We did it so that the next squad would not have to wait in the 90 degree heat and 100% humidity before they could shoot, swatting 'skeeters all the while. ( I had enought DEET on me to kill a velociraptor, but by the end of the first day I still looked like a 3-D relief map of Nepal ) We scored 'em fair and square, and the doubt went to the shooter. If anyone wants to see their hits, all they gotta do is ask the SO's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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