hankfan79 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I did a small search and couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. I have noticed on this new pistol that when a fully loaded (8rd) magazine is inserted, it takes a tremendous amount of force to press the mag release. The amount of force required to release it then causes you to press it too far and the mag hangs in the magwell. I first noticed it with the factory 8rd mag (which is made by checkmate). After that, I tried all of my Wilson Combat mags and every single one of them were the same way so I assuming its something to do with the gun and not the mags. *Note that is doesn't have this problem with 7rds in the mag. There is that distinctive "click" which is what I am looking for. If anyone has an idea of what is causing this, how to fix it, or if the search police can find a thread, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameplayer Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Had this same problem with a NRM Colt. Replaced the mag catch and problem was solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astephenson Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 You wouldn't want to drop a full mag on the clock, so don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Might have to in case of malfunction. Better safe than sorry. One can afford such time loss in EX class...but not in MA. It is supposed to run with a full magazine therefore it should. Would you buy a V8 that ran on only 7 cylinders? I think not. Edited June 13, 2011 by hankfan79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 FWIW Ruger has been putting junk lately I got one of their new LC9 pistols shot 7 rounds and the firing pin broke. My dealer gave me a full refund on the spot. I also had one of their new Mini 14's it would not run either had to send it back to the factory to get it to work right. It all worked out in the end but, when you buy a new gun it should run. You have an easy fix just take a small amount off the top of the mag catch so it is not forcing the mag up so hard. Good luck in your endeavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Okay, I'm confused. You are loading a full 8 round magazine and then hitting the mag release to eject it. Have you charged the handgun after you have loaded the magazine, or are you simply loading it and ejecting it? If an empty 8 round mag failed to drop, or it failed to drop after you charged the handgun then I could see a problem. It just seems that you are seeing a problem where there is none, but I could be missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 It happens both times. Doesn't matter if it is charged or not. It reacts the same way when loaded with a 8rd mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 It is your mag catch, Hank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Think so? Just piss poor quality? I'm gonna be pissed if I buy a new one and it does the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 What did you expect from an off brand pot metal gun? Get a Kimber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Let me look throw my boxes of gun parts, I might have one laying around if so I will send it to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 What did you expect from an off brand pot metal gun? Get a Kimber. Now that's funny Joe. You couldn't talk me into getting a Kimber. I figure I would go ahead and get this one since it's new to the market. No bad reputation (yet) like Kimber has in many areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehorn Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 You could try fiddling with the release with a file, but it probably would be easier to just get a different mag release. Does the gun run with said mags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Don't get me wrong guys, the gun runs. It's just extremely hard to release a full mag. Regardless of opinion, this is not normal. I was just curious if there was a quick fix. It seems that ordering a new one is in order to get my desired results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I have seen this a few times with production 1911's. 8 rd mags when seated exert a lot of pressure downward onto the top of the tab where the mag catches. Generally a touch of polishing or a tiny bit of material removal with a stone or file then polish will cure this. With use it may also fix it self enough to not be a bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Draw McGraw Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) The magazine catch contacts & can trapthe magazine when it is completely depressed. This may prevent the magazine from dropping until some of the pressure on the mag catch button is released. To stop this issue simply relieve (file off) some of the magazine catch inner surface where it contacts. If you are not comfortable taking a file to your pistol 10-8 Performance sells a properly sized & pre-relieved magazine catch. Bob Edited June 14, 2011 by Quick Draw McGraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Thanks Fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 It happens both times. Doesn't matter if it is charged or not. It reacts the same way when loaded with a 8rd mag. Okay, now I see the problem. I did not understand the situation fully from the earlier posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astephenson Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 One can afford such time loss in EX class...but not in MA. So you're shooting this gun as a Master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 I should....but I'm not. I just measure myself to that class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I thought I had one for a single stack no luck just a couple for hi caps. Sorry Hank. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Wes, bring it with you next time we will be at match together and I will fix it. Forgot to mention I have had 10+ Kimbers. No problems with any of them. There are 2 .45s and a 9mm/.40 in my safe right now. Edited June 14, 2011 by Joe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Joe, I have known for years that you were a Kimber fan. I had a pissing match with Kimber from years ago. Swore off their product ever since. Did the same with Springfield and their "custom shop". I will not buy there products unless I buy one from an individual for CHEAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake32 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 as with any FACTORY 1911 it will need some minor improvements to keep the owner satisfied. brand doesnt matter. stop and think about what the ruger price is. do you really think you are going to buy a new 1911 for that price and it be 100%? i think not. although if the mag catch is the only problem it can easily be replaced with a decent one for $35.00 or so and a little polishing then the problem is solved. still an inexpensive 1911 after the mod. just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Wes, I had an issue with one of the Springfield owners and Rob Leatham one night at an indoor range in Atlanta. I had one of the first 9mm Loaded guns. It would not feed. It was pretty obvious to me that the feed ramp angle was wrong. After sending it back twice the owner offered to swap it for a Custom Shop .45. It was no good either. OTOH he did the right thing and gave me my money back. I will never buy another Springfield. Edited June 15, 2011 by Joe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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