Quick Draw McGraw

Thanks. Apparently Zero will no longer give out load data sheet. They state that it is their policy. Reminded them that they have given me load data sheets on many calibers over the years but no go. I'll just work up a load using the Hornady XTP data. Was hoping someone else had some data to share for this bullet weight.

Anyone using these for revolver loads? What powder, grains, COAL? Thinking about using up some WIN231.

Vihtavouri N310

Anyone using VVN to load 38 special. I currently use Zero Bullets. If so what weight bullet/bullet style & load data.

your issue may be the Berry Bullets. i had an older SIG GSR 1911 that would just choke on those plated bullets. Switched to a FMJ bullet (ZERO) and no more feeding issues. Also with the Berry's because they are plated you have to be careful with your crimp. Too much crimp can damage the bullet. Quite frankly i don't care for plated bullets. Just for giggles I loaded some in properly resized brass and then pulled the bullets. The bullets had been sized down (smaller diameter than before sizing) just from the process of seating the bullet. I also started measuring bullet diameter & length on the Berry's right out of the box before using them and found lots of inconsistencies from batch to batch (BTW so did a local reloading company who also stopped purchasing them). I no longer use plated bullets.

Nice pistol. I've got just north of 1000 rounds through my P-II and lovin' it. I went with single side safety (oversized) & no FCS. Great pistol to shoot clay birds off of the 50 yd berm.

Shooting 9 x 19 out of Glock 17.

Thanks guys. Interesting that you noted they seem to have better grouping at distance.

Ics did you go longer or shorter with the new style JHP-C. What was your OAL?? When you say you used same load data for both bullets did you mean for both of the ZERO bullets (the JHP & JHP-C) of for the new ZERO & the Hornady HAP?

Zero Bullet Company has a new style 9mm 125 grain JHP-C. Item #136. It is a new hollow point with a conical head. I had been loading their 125gn JHP with 4.9 grains WIN231 with an OAL of 1.115 When I emailed them to get load data using HP-38/WIN 231 they told me they were loading them exactly as the older 125 gn JHP (jacketed hollow point)using 5.0gn HP-38/WIN 231. They later emailed me back stating the bullet was similiar to the Hornady HAP bullet and I could utilize similar load data. Anyone loaded any of these yet?

JK get the new one from John. John is a good guy and stands behind what he says. I've dealt with him on several occasions. Plus by getting the new one you will get your custom made cardboard carrying container. Baer's are great 1911's. One of my favorites. Old school hard fit 1911's; does not get any better. My favorite is my P-II; it just fits right.

ZERO has load data for their bullets using HP-38 which is the same powder as WIN 231. Their load data for the 230 gn JHP uses 5.8 - 6.2 gn HP-38 with a COAL of 1.200-1.220 with a .469 min straight crimp. For their 230gn FMJ they use 5.4-5.8gn HP-38 with COAL 1.245-1.265 My target loads using their FMJ 230 gn: 5.3gn WIN 231 COAL 1.260. However I do have a Baer which likes 5.6 gn. Start using 5.0 gn and work up loads for each 1/10 gn and see what your pistol likes; also need to play with the COAL.

Thanks perjohn, makes a lot of sense. Bob

"I'd say leave it stock, maybe install the 4.5# connector and polish everything, and shoot it." As far as 4.5 # connectors go is any one brand a better buy than the others? Local shop has Scherer connectors (3.5 & 4.5 I believe).

Recently purchased a Gen 3 G17 and really like the pistol. I've been pretty much a 1911, SIG, and CZ fan and always dissed the tupperware gun. Found that I really like the handling of the Glock & will be purchasing more. My question is about the trigger mods all over the internet. I plan to shoot it stock for a while and may even leave it with the stock trigger. Have seen the 25 cent trigger job and was wondering would shooting over time not smooth out these parts just as well as polishing them? Seems like there are a lot of trigger kits, parts etc. and was wondering what people had done to improve their trigger, whether they like it or not, and would they do it again. Have checked out trigger kits on Glockpro, Lone Wolf, etc. and the array of choice is somewhat overwhelming.

Well finally got my Montana Gold 55gn bullets and decided to try Hodgdon H-335. First things first. Montana Gold makes a great product. Bullets are well made and very consistent. Will be buying a lot more of these. I have a dealer account with ZERO Bullets for pistol bullets which are also excellent. After buying the MG rifle bullets I will obtain some of their pistol bullets to compare the 2. Anyway worked up a bunch of different loads starting at 22.5 gn through 24 gn. The 24 gn of H-335 using Lake City brass trimmed to 1.751 with Winchester small rifle primers and the 55gn bullet makes one ragged hole. COAL 2.248 I guess I will also try 24.5 & 25 gn to see if there is any improvement/difference. But the 24 gn H-335 makes a very nice, precise shooting load with the Lake City Brass. Thanks to everyone who provided advice here. Bob

Have ordered some MG 55grain FMJ bullets for my AR15. It has 20 inch stainless barrel with 1:8 twist. Previously loaded a different 62 gr bullet with Varget. Very accurate but meters poorly in my RCBS Uniflow and I had to weigh each charge it was so inconsistent. Thinking more towards using a ball powder for better metering such as WIN 748, H335, or BLC2. Rep at MG recommended BLC2. Anyone worked up a load using these powders? Please include OAL, charge weight etc. I will be using Lake City once fired brass, Winchester small rifle primers. Thanks,Bob.

Dan they will just be for cheap plinking; I have several thousand that I want to use up. Will be then buying the Montana Gold 55 FMJ bullet as suggested. Bob

Rigger: I just have a cuple of thousand of them. Any sources for good bullet at decent price. I'm using a stainless barrel with 1:8 twist. Bob

Will be reloading .223 for AR-15 using Hodgdon Varget powder. I'm using military brass (ADCOM) have swaged primer pocket military crimp, using Winchester small rifle primers & 62 grain M-855 FMJ military ball steel penetrator bullet. My COAL 2.245. Hodgdon has load data for 63 grain FMJ boat tail with starting load of 24.5gn and max load of 26.4 (compressed load).I was thinking of starting @ 24 grains and working up but have also read about military brass being thicker causing higher pressures and was wondering if I should start lower maybe @ 23 grains of Varget? Any help would be appreciated. Bob

First and foremost NEVER use someone else's reloads. Second, every gun is different and the best reason to load your own is you can fine tune your loads to an individual pistol. Some guns run well on a particular COAL (cartridge overall length)and others will choke on it. I do not care for plated bullets. I have some 1911's that will eat them just fine but also have a customized 1911 that will continually choke with plated bullets. Switch over to FMJ bullets and it runs perfect. The suggestion to try running factory manufactured ammo through the gun to see how it does is good advice. I would highly recommend doing this before starting to change things on your gun like modifying the feed lips on your mags etc. Check one thing at a time to eliminate possible problems and the "somebody else's reloads" is the FIRST PLACE to start. After you have eliminated the possibility of an ammo issue then you can start looking at other variables. By the way plated bullets are notorious for bullet setback issues which can lead to dangerous pressure spikes. Why not measure the COAL of the bullets that would not feed and compare them to the other bullets you have that have not been in the gun or mag. They might raise some eyebrows. Bob

The magazine catch contacts & can trapthe magazine when it is completely depressed. This may prevent the magazine from dropping until some of the pressure on the mag catch button is released. To stop this issue simply relieve (file off) some of the magazine catch inner surface where it contacts. If you are not comfortable taking a file to your pistol 10-8 Performance sells a properly sized & pre-relieved magazine catch. Bob

Joe: Different manuals will show different load data as they are using different bullets (different manufacturers) and testing in different guns. I currently use ZERO bullets. With their 230 gn FMJ for a target load I use 5.2 gn WIN 231 (AKA HP-38) with a COAL 1.255 using Winchester large primers and WInchester brass. Bob

Sir, do you have info zero 115 grain JHP? For OAL, FPS? Thx. They "recommend" an OAL of 1.110/1.095 and same powder load of 5.0gn HP-38 for the 115 JHP. No FPS info was provided. Another powder I like (and prefer for 9mm) is Titegroup. Settled on 4.3gn with longer OAL 1.125. Nothing wrong with HP-38 though.

Zero Bullet Co. recommends the following for their 115 grain FMJ 9mm bullet: Powder: HP-38 5.0 grains, COAL 1.110/1.095, Crimp .376/.375 They also recommend same specs for their 124 gr FMJ. I started a little lower and made test loads in 1/10 grain increments from 4.5 to 5.0 grains using HP-38. Found that for my gun(s) the 4.7 & 4.8 gr loads were the most accurate; groups started opening up at 4.9 & 5.0 grains. Start on the lower end and work up carefully while monitoring for signs of excess pressure.