Matt Griffin Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Reading the rules, checkering is allowed in the semiauto definitions, but is not mentioned in the revolver definitions. I would like to checker my sight tang and the bottom of the trigger guard, as this aids my grip during a reload. Would this be allowed? Also as to hammers, it seems you can cut as much as you want, is this correct? Thanks, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I don't see where checkering on a revolver is allowed. So I'd say no there. It says you can remove the hammer spur. Are you wondering if you can remove just part of the hammer spur? Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg K Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Matt I have had a few conversations with Robert Ray of IDPA HQ about what can be done to revolvers, it always comes down to the inclusive list of allowed modifications listed in the rulebook. Since it's an inclusive list it means that if what you want to do is not included on the list, you can't do it. Bottom line is no checkering or engraving is allowed. The pistol divisions say that you can use grip or skateboard tape but it is not on the allowed modifications for revolver, I don't know if that was by design or an omission. I would ask for a clarification from HQ on skate tape for revolvers. You can cut away on your hammer all you want but do not remove the locking portion if you have a lock gun since the lock must function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedale Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Matt, If I am following correctly, it sounds like a S&W model 27 would solve 1/2 of your problem. The top is checkered from the factory. You would need light grips (as I recall) to make weight though. Plus they are uber cool. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 That sure is an interesting gun in the new Front Sight. The checkering is interesting since it is not on the gun/frame but looks to be on the sight, which removable, seems like it is legal. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Heh, the thing I like is that apparently skate tape is only effective on semiautos? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Actually a lot of the more accomplished revolver shooters - Jerry Miculek, for instance - like smooth grips without any hint of texturing. There's can be a lot more gun movement in the hand required to speedload a revolver than an auto, and a smooth grip allows the gun to be moved quite a bit faster and more smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Actually a lot of the more accomplished revolver shooters - Jerry Miculek, for instance - like smooth grips without any hint of texturing. There's can be a lot more gun movement in the hand required to speedload a revolver than an auto, and a smooth grip allows the gun to be moved quite a bit faster and more smoothly. We haven't met, have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Actually a lot of the more accomplished revolver shooters - Jerry Miculek, for instance - like smooth grips without any hint of texturing. There's can be a lot more gun movement in the hand required to speedload a revolver than an auto, and a smooth grip allows the gun to be moved quite a bit faster and more smoothly. We haven't met, have we? That is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Actually a lot of the more accomplished revolver shooters - Jerry Miculek, for instance - like smooth grips without any hint of texturing. There's can be a lot more gun movement in the hand required to speedload a revolver than an auto, and a smooth grip allows the gun to be moved quite a bit faster and more smoothly. We haven't met, have we? Well it's not like you actually beat Jerry Maybe if you had smooth grips you would have got the extra couple points? I've got to go send some guy named Dave Sevigny tips on how to make his Glock run better. Duane, when you get a chance open up your latest copy of Front Sight and you can read up a bit on Mr. Griffin. Also the last couple times I've seen Jerry with a wheel gun he hasn't been using his smooth wood grips. He's been using rubber grips. Last time I talked to him he said they were off the Smith X Frame becuase his hands were giving him troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) I could beat Jerry. If he was blindfolded. Well, MAYBE. Edited February 1, 2011 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Actually a lot of the more accomplished revolver shooters - Jerry Miculek, for instance - like smooth grips without any hint of texturing. There's can be a lot more gun movement in the hand required to speedload a revolver than an auto, and a smooth grip allows the gun to be moved quite a bit faster and more smoothly. Is HE that guy that wears the straw when he compets--naw--now that I think about he ain't the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm always willing to learn new things, Mr. Griffin. Please educate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTT8qZkuWjI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) That video is two years old, here's one just a bit faster: http://www.griffinshooting.com/2010/08/new-reload-video.html#links Anyway, of course Jerry is the best ever, but his using smooth grips doesn't mean others can't find a use for skate tape, so I think they should allow it on revolvers just like they do on semis. Edit: Thinking about it a bit more, I do see where I intentionally get a better grip on the gun coming off the reload whereas Jerry likely just grabs the thing and squirms it into place on the way up. Maybe if I slicked up my strong-hand side but left the weak-hand taped . . . Thanks Duane! H. Edited February 1, 2011 by Matt Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Halley Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Anyway, of course Jerry is the best ever, but his using smooth grips doesn't mean others can't find a use for skate tape, so I think they should allow it on revolvers just like they do on semis. Jerry was talking about the ability to correct the grip during the presentation in one of his videos. I think it was ultimate advanced revolver. Matt, you are a pioneer of sorts also and as Jerry has revived the Revolver after McGivern you have come up with a way to manipulate with great speed and efficiency equipment that wasn't designed for lefties. Look before that leap eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Edit: Thinking about it a bit more, I do see where I intentionally get a better grip on the gun coming off the reload whereas Jerry likely just grabs the thing and squirms it into place on the way up. Maybe if I slicked up my strong-hand side but left the weak-hand taped . . . Thanks Duane! Thank you, Matt. Though your skill with a revolver is so far beyond mine, I am hardly the one to be giving you tips on how to manipulate a revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Bah, that's the kind of thinking that causes stagnation. Anyone can come up with a good idea, it's up to us to recognize it. I'll post a picture if I can work up something I like. Lord knows messing with my grips is fast becoming a more time-consuming hobby than the actual shooting. Matt Edited February 2, 2011 by Matt Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinger Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I think they said that anyone BUT Matt Griffin can have checkering on the topstrap and trigger guard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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