rupture Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Using n105 in 38sc, looking for a cheap alternative for practice. What would be the closest powder to n105 that is cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Looking at the burn rate charts, HS-7, Blue Dot, Win 571, or No. 9 Accurate powder are very close to each other, so one of those should be good to use. I have used Longshot in super before, it works, but it's loud and to work the comp, you will have some pressure signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) Using n105 in 38sc, looking for a cheap alternative for practice. What would be the closest powder to n105 that is cheaper? AA#7 is very similiar. It is cheap and dirty. 10.2gr w/125 = 169pf or 10.5 w/125 = 175 pf. Edited August 30, 2010 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Using n105 in 38sc, looking for a cheap alternative for practice. What would be the closest powder to n105 that is cheaper? AA#7 is very similiar. It is cheap and dirty. 10.2gr w/125 = 169pf or 10.5 w/125 = 175 pf. Coco, I just don't understand how you can get 10.5 in a sC case! I use 10.2 VV N105 in a super case and it damn near fills the case up (to 1/8" from the top!) and the super has a larger case capaxity than SC! Are you a magician or something? Or is AA#7 just that much more dense than VV N105? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupture Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) I use 10.4 of n105 in sc with 115gr. bullets, no problem. I don't trust the burn rate charts they are all different. I try to stick with the real world experience from you guys Edited August 30, 2010 by rupture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I use 10.4 of n105 in sc with 115gr. bullets, no problem Do you put your finger on the case when moving it from stage to stage on the press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupture Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 No and I use a sdb.I have abot the same space you have left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I use 10.4 of n105 in sc with 115gr. bullets, no problem. I don't trust the burn rate charts they are all different. I try to stick with the real world experience from you guys 3N38 is pretty close and you can get it in larger jugs which drops the price some. While I haven't tried it (yet), a couple of really good guys have told me 4756 is pretty close as well (and cleaner). R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Using n105 in 38sc, looking for a cheap alternative for practice. What would be the closest powder to n105 that is cheaper? AA#7 is very similiar. It is cheap and dirty. 10.2gr w/125 = 169pf or 10.5 w/125 = 175 pf. Coco, I just don't understand how you can get 10.5 in a sC case! I use 10.2 VV N105 in a super case and it damn near fills the case up (to 1/8" from the top!) and the super has a larger case capaxity than SC! Are you a magician or something? Or is AA#7 just that much more dense than VV N105? I'm at 10.7gr of N105 now and it's pretty full, but not so full it spills. AA#7 is definitely more dense in comparison to the fairly large sticks of N105. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'm at 10.2 and if I rotate the shellplate really fast, I'm at 9.8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I use 10.4 of n105 in sc with 115gr. bullets, no problem. I don't trust the burn rate charts they are all different. I try to stick with the real world experience from you guys 3N38 is pretty close and you can get it in larger jugs which drops the price some. While I haven't tried it (yet), a couple of really good guys have told me 4756 is pretty close as well (and cleaner). R, I've got a HUGE can of 4756 to use when I can't get my hands on N350, or, N105, and I think it's pretty dirty compared to those two. If you decide to use 4756, get a big can. It seems that every batch I ever bought, chronoed different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuthh Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) Using n105 in 38sc, looking for a cheap alternative for practice. What would be the closest powder to n105 that is cheaper? AA#7 is very similiar. It is cheap and dirty. 10.2gr w/125 = 169pf or 10.5 w/125 = 175 pf. Coco, I just don't understand how you can get 10.5 in a sC case! I use 10.2 VV N105 in a super case and it damn near fills the case up (to 1/8" from the top!) and the super has a larger case capaxity than SC! Are you a magician or something? Or is AA#7 just that much more dense than VV N105? You are right.AA#7 is more dense.It's still has room to fill Edited September 2, 2010 by yuthh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Agreed. 4756 would be an excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I've got a HUGE can of 4756 to use when I can't get my hands on N350, or, N105, and I think it's pretty dirty compared to those two. I found 4756 to be the cleanest powder I've ever run in a racegun... far cleaner than either N105 or N350, and cleaner than even 7625. I'm loading 11.2gr N105 in Supercomp. Fits no problem. I sit a bullet on top of the case as it comes out of the powder measure, which minimizes spillage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I'm loading 11.2gr N105 in Supercomp. Fits no problem. I sit a bullet on top of the case as it comes out of the powder measure, which minimizes spillage typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 4756 is a great alternative and much cheaper. 3n38 is a little less expensive, if you buy it in the 4lb jugs as Bart mentioned, but unburned powder will accumulate in the comp in some pistols and you'll get some distracting (at least to me) booms when that powder is lit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2ace Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I run AA7 as a 9 major load.....10.2gr is a 3/4 full case, which is about the same as my 7.7gr Silhouette and 7.2gr Autocomp loads. It can be dirty, but it is close to N105 in burn-rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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