scooter doc Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Has anybody got a case of these recently? I got mine on monday, and there totally messed up. about 25% are misshappen so badly, they will not chamber check, when you load them. they are almost flat on one side. ive loaded 6k of these in the last 3 months, so i know they make good bullets. Im not slamming them, just trying to get info.And before you ask, ive been calling, and emailing, and cannot get them to reply. dave Edited June 18, 2010 by scooter doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Tom and Tony are great guys, I shoot with them locally. They will make things right with you, sometimes they are bit on the busy side and you won't get responses right away but they will get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Say it aint so! I have had nothing but good things to say about these people since I started shooting them last year. That 130 is what I just ordered 3K of about an hour or aso ago. How long did it take to get your bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter doc Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 took a little over three weeks. I called to check on it the previous wed. and they shipped that day. I think they probably have a problem in the casting, of these. some taper, to a point, like the old ones. but some have a larger tip (these are the bad ones) im haveing to roll them on a table top, and if they wobble, there bad. wed I loaded 300 rounds, for the cup, 49 would not chamber check. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveissues Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I just received a small sample order last week of 130's and 147's to try out in my CZ Shadow. They all look and shot good. I am about to place a large order for the 130's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlbob Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) The different bullet nose shapes will also affect your OAL. I got a batch that is kind of messed up also and had to check the OAL on every round, some came in at under 1.1 most ran in the 1.130 to 1.140 range and some would go long even over 1.150 on occasion. I still am unsure about what exactly is going on, changed the seating die from a 25 year old Lyman to a newer Lee I bought this past month thinking that was the problem at first but it still is ongoing. Never thought about the bullets being out of round just noticed the nose shapes seemed different. I met Tom at the Area 5 but did not mention it to him as he seemed to be having a great time and I did not want to disturb him with business. Seems like a really nice guy. Never encountered such a problem before, funny thing is the bullets still chronoed pretty well. Got to say the lube is wonderful. Guess I should mention the problem to him although I bet he is on it. earl Edited June 20, 2010 by earlbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter doc Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 thanks earl, I guess im not nuts afterall. I was speaking to a friend about it, at the car. cup thursday, and I had a industry person, tell me i was wrong. hes been shooting them for years, with no problem. I did manage to get 4th in ssp, ss... but that wasnt bbi's fault. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I ordered 1000 and 400 were the wrong size or the wrong weight. I was told I didn't know what I was doing and they wouldn't make good for me so I don't order from them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) Yup,I ordered 3k in May and a lot of them are lopsided too. Surprisingly, groupings are still within 3.5" at 25yrds resting off a backpack. Edited June 21, 2010 by edison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkie Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I ordered 1000 and 400 were the wrong size or the wrong weight. I was told I didn't know what I was doing and they wouldn't make good for me so I don't order from them anymore. That does not sound to good, did you send them pics. Looking at teh ones above you can sure see the bad ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter doc Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 I guess im gonna have to put up pics, yours look good, compared to what i got. if you set them flat on the base, one side is almost vertical. they will not chamber, in your gun. these are not visually impared, there useless. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 I recently got an order of 230gr .45's that contain some that are mishapen and look somewhat melted/folded on one side. First time I ever saw anything like that from them out of thousands of .40 and 9 bullets. That is, other than 1 130gr out of 2000 once that looked like the mold was half full when it was cast. I have been loading the 230's and they load and shoot fine. Groups are good and I used them to win my division and 2nd overall at this past saturday's match. I would call BBI and mention it to them. They have always been a good company IMO. I was just about to place a larger order of 230's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Got mine yesterday. So that is about two weeks more or less. I going in to load about 1K right now. I will post how they look when I get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Done finally. The bullets I received seemed consistent in size and shape. All my loaded rounds were near identical in looks. I slightly increaed my bell and crimp to ensure no coating is getting shaved on the sides of the bullets upon seating. They cycle great still, and I will try and get out to the range to do an accuracy test on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czrunner Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) 1 Edited July 22, 2010 by czrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czrunner Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Sorry for the issue on the Bullets. A while ago we had a machine break and go out of spec. during operation. We did an inspection and I thought we had caught all the bad bullets before any of them got shipped, looks like a few have gotten through. We are truly sorry. We will most certainly replace the order for you ASAP. Thank you for bring this to our attention, we want to make sure you are please with our bullets. Sorry if we missed your call, Shoot me a email and I will get it done right away for you. Tony Caspers BBI info@blackbulletsinternational.com Has anybody got a case of these recently? I got mine on monday, and there totally messed up. about 25% are misshappen so badly, they will not chamber check, when you load them. they are almost flat on one side. ive loaded 6k of these in the last 3 months, so i know they make good bullets. Im not slamming them, just trying to get info.And before you ask, ive been calling, and emailing, and cannot get them to reply. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czrunner Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I ordered 1000 and 400 were the wrong size or the wrong weight. I was told I didn't know what I was doing and they wouldn't make good for me so I don't order from them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czrunner Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I ordered 1000 and 400 were the wrong size or the wrong weight. I was told I didn't know what I was doing and they wouldn't make good for me so I don't order from them anymore. AZShooter, Not sure what this is about but we have a 100% satisfaction guanetee so, I can say we don't tell anyone that we won't make good on an order that a customer is not happy with. Please email me your invoice number and I will take care of it personally. Tony Caspers BBI Edited July 22, 2010 by czrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Now that's a stand up company Thanks for the response Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 That is the cool thing about guys like this. Making it right, and not afraid to come out and say what happened too. Next payday, I'm going to order 3K more of the 130s. I want to get as many loaded before the start of our season. (We don't run in the Summer, and that's a bummer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter doc Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 guys, sorry i forgot about this. tony is the man, and he took care of it. you guys can have confidence, when dealing with bbi, you will be treated right. Tony, im sorry i didnt post this two weeks ago. THankyou dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 guys, sorry i forgot about this. tony is the man, and he took care of it. you guys can have confidence, when dealing with bbi, you will be treated right. Tony, im sorry i didnt post this two weeks ago. THankyou dave I also got a reply from him, what was the time frame for receiving your replacements? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Yup,I ordered 3k in May and a lot of them are lopsided too. Surprisingly, groupings are still within 3.5" at 25yrds resting off a backpack. Thats good to hear, as I have a state level match on Aug 7th and the bad case is all i have to load up. It seems you get cross-eyed from trying to pick out ht good ones and they all start looking funny. I will wait for the replacement, and if its too late , will do my best to find the ones that look like the last order i placed with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yup,I ordered 3k in May and a lot of them are lopsided too. Surprisingly, groupings are still within 3.5" at 25yrds resting off a backpack. Thats good to hear, as I have a state level match on Aug 7th and the bad case is all i have to load up. It seems you get cross-eyed from trying to pick out ht good ones and they all start looking funny. I will wait for the replacement, and if its too late , will do my best to find the ones that look like the last order i placed with them. Got them in time. Great customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBA2 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 anyone happen to know how far BBI is running behind on orders right now? I ordered some PD's and BBI's on the same day and have had the PD's for a little over a week now. Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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