Field Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 i shoot an xdm9 in esp division, alot of the time when i go dry the slide wont lock back generally because my thumb would be pressing on or touching the slide release. this adds a little bit of time to reloads because of having to fully rack the slide. would it be legal to shave the slide stop or cut part of it off so my thumb is less likely to press on it? yes i do practice putting my thumb in the right spot but most of the time it just doesnt work that way. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Halley Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 i shoot an xdm9 in esp division, alot of the time when i go dry the slide wont lock back generally because my thumb would be pressing on or touching the slide release. this adds a little bit of time to reloads because of having to fully rack the slide. would it be legal to shave the slide stop or cut part of it off so my thumb is less likely to press on it? yes i do practice putting my thumb in the right spot but most of the time it just doesnt work that way. thanks I did this to a Glock of mine having the same problem. I did however leave enough to still release it manually. I saw nothing in the rules in ESP but SSP might not like it since it changes something externally visible other than grips or sights. Page 20 excluded modification number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Should be good in ESP. XD is not legal in SSP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haji Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fix your grip. If you're right handed, roll your right hand thumb out a little bit. You're overriding the slide stop; changing the shape of it and still having it be usable won't make that go away. The shooting hand thumb is pretty much along for the ride, its your support hand that's supplying most of the grip strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fix your grip. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoShooter Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fix your grip. If you're right handed, roll your right hand thumb out a little bit. You're overriding the slide stop; changing the shape of it and still having it be usable won't make that go away. The shooting hand thumb is pretty much along for the ride, its your support hand that's supplying most of the grip strength. Easier said that done... I shoot my 1911 almost exclusivly, my grip is so ingrained that when I shoot my XDm that I have the same problem, slide no locky on empty... It's one of my biggest problems with plastic pistols, the controls are wrong somebody should get it right. And at least for me, I'm not willing to commit the time to change my grip, sounds like Field's in the same boat. Love to see a drop in slide release that moves it forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) May people teach that the strong hand thumb doesn't do anything. I don't believe it for a second. I always ask the "thumb over thumb" grip guys where they put their thumb when shooting strong hand? Floating out it space, pretending the other thumb is still there? I won't take bad form in exchange for badly designed guns. YMMV I no longer own any Glocks, but when I did they looked like this. Worked just as well as the full sized tab. SIG's are fixable. The slide not locking back is a really common complaint of new (to SIG's) shooters. I don't know why SIG never offered a latch sort of like this. Of course they're keep you out of certain classes, but I have other guns for that. Edited May 31, 2010 by cas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'd say it's legal for ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) Easier said that done... I shoot my 1911 almost exclusivly, my grip is so ingrained that when I shoot my XDm that I have the same problem, slide no locky on empty... speaking of which i almost straight up bought a taurus pt1911 yesterday because i was at the store and i axed the guy behind the counter to let me see it, i snatched the gun up and pointed it at something, then pulled the nice 1911 trigger and boom the sights were right on target perfectly lined up with almost no work on my part and then i looked at where my hands were and they were perfectly positioned just naturally. not touching any controls. Edited June 1, 2010 by Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 I'd say it's legal for ESP. my problem is i want something that is both legal for uspsa production and esp/ssp in idpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Yes, it would be legal for for IDPA's ESP division, but no, it wouldn't be legal for USPSA's Production division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 what about this: http://www.pistolgear.com/proddetail.php?prod=00PG037 would buying a part like this which is made to fit all XD and XDM models be a legal part to put on the gun for production uspsa? im really irritated because this is almost the only thing that makes me not want to use the xdm and if i can get my paws on it and its legal i can keep my xdm which i still like alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astephenson Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I'd say it's legal for ESP. my problem is i want something that is both legal for uspsa production and esp/ssp in idpa Regardless of modifications the XDm will never be legal for IDPA SSP since it's a single action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 Regardless of modifications the XDm will never be legal for IDPA SSP since it's a single action. im not shooting any ssp. just esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I'd say it's legal for ESP. my problem is i want something that is both legal for uspsa production and esp/ssp in idpa Regardless of modifications the XDm will never be legal for IDPA SSP since it's a single action. Not single action, striker fired, just like the M&P and Glock. All it would take is for IDPA to decide to admit it is a service pistol to classify it as SSP legal, as they can do whatever they want. The Pistol gear slide release is not Production legal and unless SA puts it in the factory catalog, it will not become so, as that is the USPSA rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoShooter Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Easier said that done... I shoot my 1911 almost exclusivly, my grip is so ingrained that when I shoot my XDm that I have the same problem, slide no locky on empty... speaking of which i almost straight up bought a taurus pt1911 yesterday because i was at the store and i axed the guy behind the counter to let me see it, i snatched the gun up and pointed it at something, then pulled the nice 1911 trigger and boom the sights were right on target perfectly lined up with almost no work on my part and then i looked at where my hands were and they were perfectly positioned just naturally. not touching any controls. That's why I only shoot the XDm for fun, like at multi gun matches... 1911 is my carry gun, and competition gun, there is just nothing that feel like a good 1911. You might look at getting a 9mm 1911, those are a lot of fun! and the controls are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdschappell Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Instead of modifying the stock XDm part, you could put on the slide release from the XD, which will fit and is flatter than the XDm part. Because it is an SA factory part from a production approved gun (the XD), it would be legal in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 Instead of modifying the stock XDm part, you could put on the slide release from the XD, which will fit and is flatter than the XDm part. Because it is an SA factory part from a production approved gun (the XD), it would be legal in production. can anyone else second this? because this is exactly what i was cooking on when i was at work. I was wondering if having the XD slidestop on the XDM was legal or not. Because honestly the XD slidestop button is perfect. I really dont get this thing about "i want a bigger slidestop button because my hands are 2 small to press it." Like how damn small do your hands have to be in order to be in that kind of sad situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 That part swap would definitely be legal for ESP, and (based on what I've read here) would also be legal for USPSA production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) SCOAR too bad it took me so long to figure this out. oh well. Edited June 2, 2010 by Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 It would also be legal for SSP. You're allowed to switch out any factory part for any other factory part, such as a Glock extended slide release for a Glock low profile slide release or vice versa, whether or not the gun came from the factory that way. No reason the same shouldn't be true within the XD family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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