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I was looking at the CMC, but after Tod's assessment of this Geiselle, and with the price it's at, I'm very interested.

Aha...good to know. That makes it significantly more affordable...

I just reread my last post, a actually DON'T think it'd be unreasonable to get a GP100 fixed up for IDPA &/or ICORE. As far as the cylinder release thing, I'd agree with SteelShooten, doesn't seem like they're different enough for it to be an issue, and both are definitely better than the Colt release. The pins on the star shouldn't be a big deal, S&W quit makin 'em that way years ago and I haven't had any issues. The narrower trigger is one of the things I like about the GP100.

I just happened to read 00bullitt's brief review in another thread today. Apparently the Noveske team's been using them for a while, and Tod says it's the best he's used. And you know he's used them all. It's in the thread about triggers without screw adjustments. Weird. Looks like Tod & I were typing simultaneously.

Actually they're not any cheaper than the QD mounts.

Yeah, I've seen some of the Ron Power guns before. I certainly wouldn't put the kind of money into a Ruger that I would into a Smith, or do something crazy like get a Redhawk moonclipped and try to run it in USPSA. But I think it'd be unreasonable to get a GP100 fluffed & buffed for SSR or ICORE.

Well said. That's hard to argue with. Sometimes the old curmudgeons don't like change cause they just don't. If you can present a well-reasoned argument from a major 3-Gun match director, he won't have a leg to stand on unless he rules with an iron fist.

I ran across one of these today, it's about the same price as a Rock River upper and a mag block. I like the idea of having a separate rifle in 9mm to play with, rather than having to swap out (and possibly tune) a 9mm upper & mag block every time I want to shoot it. I'm a little wary of the Carbon 15 rifle, though. It seems they don't have a great reputation for durability, though the people that have ones they like really like them. Does anyone with firsthand experience have any feedback they can give me?

I've got a little money to burn, & I'm thinking about getting a shotgun for 3 gun. Bear in mind that the local club only does 3 or 4 matches a year, & I haven't shot one yet. Here's what I'm looking at: The Winchester SX2 for sale in the Classifieds looks like a real good deal. Or course it's essentially an FN SLP, and I like that I'd be buying it from a 3 gunner who's already put it through it's paces & probably taken good care of it. He's asking $650. Locally there's a beat-up cop trade-in Benelli M1 for $600. It's in fine shape mechanically, just has a lot of rack wear typical of a cop gun and probably hasn't been shot much. It's about the cheapest Benelli I've ever seen, so much so that I could probably afford to send it to Benny. The downside is that it has a pistol grip stock, ghost ring sights, & a short barrel. Also locally I found a Mossberg 930SPX for $400. The price is great, but of course it could be one of the early ones with issues. With as cheap as it is, I could easily afford to upgrade the mag extension & clamp to a Nordic, & get the side rail, mount a Surefire light, & use it as a house gun too. I think all are good possibilities, but I'm having trouble deciding. What do the more experienced minds have to say?

So what were the problems with the SPX model?

Just to clarify, I'm certainly not giving up my Carmonized 625, I was thinking about a GP100 for IDPA, maybe ICORE Retro. It just seems to fit me better than a 686.

Ever since I got into revolvers, I've been a dyed in the wool S&W guy. I have several, and I like them very much, and never really saw the need to look at anything else. By all accounts, Rugers are strong, well-built revolvers, but it's always been said that the way the company was run was not very friendly to the competitive shooter, like how spare parts are not available and a gun with custom work that's sent in for repairs will be returned to factory specs. However, it seems that since Bill Ruger has passed on things are improving. First they come out with the LCP, then the LCR, both guns designed specifically for concealed carry, then the SR-556, a really nice black rifle, and they've started selling hi-cap Mini-14 mags to the general public. I've personally been pretty impressed with Ruger lately. I was intrigued by the LCR when it first came out, but I thought for a pocket gun the grips were huge. Then they came out with another version with a boot grip and a night sight to boot. I got one and I really like it. My girl's cousin just bought a new M77 rifle, and the newer mark 2 version has a very nice out of the box trigger pull, where I'd always heard the trigger on previous Ruger rifles was horrendous. My girl's dad is a Ruger nut, and he recently sent in an older Mark 2 pistol for repair. It couldn't be repaired due to structural damage, but they sold him a new one for half of dealer cost, and sent back everything but the serial numbered frame, including his aftermarket Clark trigger kit. A while back I handled a GP100, and it seems like a really nice gun for the money, but I was turned off by everything I'd ever heard about the way the company was run. Now I'm reconsidering. So what do you guys think? Is the apparent new direction of the company worth taking a chance on?

It's sort of intangible really, all the reasons posted are valid. But there's 2 major reasons that brought me to revolver shooting, and they're the same reasons why I stay. I shoot a revolver more accurately than an auto, and revolver shooters are hands down the friendliest, most helpful, and most fun people around. I've never met a revolver shooter who was rude, unfriendly, or humorless. Ever. I definitely can't say the same about Open shooters.

At some point, bubber posted some very helpful videos of his reload technique with cut down CompIIIs. If you can't find them in a search of the revolver forum, you might just PM him and ask.

I carry it IWB in an Andrews MacDaniel II as seen here. It's about as comfy as IWB can be, and it hides well under a baggy shirt. The steel reinforcement around the mouth is also nice, as it's pretty much impossible for the holster to collapse after the gun comes out. I've got one for my fullsize steel 1911, but I'll probably rarely ever use it now that I've got the Pro Carry. I also used this same holster for the CCO when I had it, and had no issues at all. The ones I have have the body shield, which is an absolute necessity with my love handles.

It's been a while since I was on the forum, didn't know that this thread was still kicking! So here's what happened: When I got to the big gun shop, I started having second thoughts about the VBOB. After handling it again, I really didn't like the weight, plus I'm always loathe to part with that much money. The Springfield Champion I was looking at was sold, but for $20 more they had a Kimber Pro Carry II with night sights, so I decided just to get that. I've been carrying it for a few months now, almost daily, though I've picked up a Ruger LCR that I've carried on the really hot days this summer. I even shot a Single Stack match with it and I've had zero problems. I think I made the right choice, it's a really easy carry, and it's stone cold reliable. The match I shot with it, the recoil was definitely more noticeable, but my hits were good and splits weren't too bad. I'm totally confident in this gun.

This stuff is all personal preference, but I use a Millett rear, SDM fiber front, and an Ed Brown cylinder release. The reason why is that Carmoney sold me one of his backups and that's how he had his set up at the time. The problem I have with the Hogue unit (other than the look of it--I mean, why cut off one long pokey spur just to replace it with another) is that the button is too far back. With the way I hit the cylinder release, I have to move my thumb too far back for it to be comfortable (or fast). Of course the problem is that the Ed Brown unit is no longer available. I did find a local shop last year that had 3 brand new ones in stock, but that was just dumb luck. I bought all 3, kept one for my Model 14, and passed the others along here on the forum. California Competition Works makes one that's fairly similar, albeit a bit bigger. As far as the sights go, I really like the Millett/SDM combo, but if I was starting from scratch I'd probably get the Protocall fromt and keep the stock rear, though I'd be tempted to get the SDM rear cause it's so cool looking and appears to be rugged as hell.

Last weekend I had the pleasure of shooting a match with the Irish family. It seems Sarah's going to college in Terre Haute, so for the next 4 years all the Open shooters are gonna get dominated by a little girl. Anyway, Steve was telling me he's planning on gaming the speedloader division in Memphis using a 625 with SL Variant speedloaders now that the SL Variants are available in the US again. Apparently we were interrupted because I neglected to ask him were they could be had. One of the main reasons I don't have any N frames besides the 625 is the lack of decent speedloaders available, so I'm interested to find out where I can get them and how much they cost. BTW, I had my first win at the match (albeit just barely), it was nice to have a win shooting against real full-time revolver shooters, and Steve & Sue are a hoot!

Carmoney's right on. I just picked up a Model 18, and it's the perfect size for me. I have short fingers, my girlfriend says I have "delicate lady hands". Her hands are even smaller, and she felt the M18 fit her better than the 4" M34 her dad gave her years ago. I don't think that grip size is really an issue. Remember that the grips are interchangeable, and there's dozens and dozens of different styles that all feel different to different people. I could certainly see a 6 inch barrel with a full underlug being an issue for somebody with small hands, but with a 4" barrel it shouldn't be an issue. If you get an older M17/18, there won't be a full underlug and the barrel profile is lighter, so even a 6" may not be a problem.

I used the Mueller's bar for the first time last night, and I'm never going back. I've been shaving since I was 13, and this is the first time my skin isn't irritated. I already had a bowl & brush, now I think I gotta get an old school safety razor to complete the set.

it's a para See, I don't equate Para with crappy, I think largely because of the gunsmith at the first club I ever shot at. He's a crusty old salt, & I do mean old, if he's not 80 yet he's damn close. He's been working on Para guns since back when they were frame kits, & he's a helluva gunsmith. Consequently, there was only 1 guy shooting a 2011 at that club, everybody else shot Para Limited & Open guns and they all ran like raped apes. I've never hesitated to consider Para because I know a good gunsmith.

I ran across an older Para 18.9 LDA pistol, it's old enough that it doesn't have the goofy extractor, and it's cheap. Also, CDNN has mags for $30 apiece. I did a search, and most people seem to think that the reason the LDA never took off in Production is cost & long trigger reset. Well, this one is old & kinda beat up, so the price is about the same as a new Glock, & I'm primarily a revolver shooter so I don't think the long reset will bother me. I like the idea of a big heavy 1911ish gun for Production, & it'd be nice to load the mags up all the way for 3 gun. Anybody got a reason why I shouldn't go for it?

Apparently Jim Anglin at Sailors Custom is the man to talk to about LDA trigger work.

That's exactly what I'm afraid of. I think I've decided on the Springfield Lightweight Champion. I've found that the 5" gun is too long for me to wear in my sports car (Jaguar XJS), so the 5" gun is out, and I just think the steel frame is gonna be too heavy. I think I'll be happiest with the 4" lightweight gun. Dan Wesson CCO, American made, and no MIM. Yeah, but I just sold my Colt CCO for something with a full sized grip. I wish that DW would make the VBOB in a lightweight frame. Kimber's making one now, but street price is only about $100 less than a DW, and I just don't think the value is there compared to a DW.

That's exactly what I'm afraid of. I think I've decided on the Springfield Lightweight Champion. I've found that the 5" gun is too long for me to wear in my sports car (Jaguar XJS), so the 5" gun is out, and I just think the steel frame is gonna be too heavy. I think I'll be happiest with the 4" lightweight gun.