jt1207

that makes sense to me.

I can understand your position. Although, this sounds like a beef with uspsa leadership, and not so much people who shoot uspsa. And remember, you were a uspsa "noob" at one time too.

thank you

I haven't been around long enough to understand what you are saying here. I obviously get the band-aid reference but what division is headed where?

i understand your thought process but I don't think that is the solution. Someone more experienced/knowledgeable than me maybe could chime in here, but I think the reasons 9mm Limited major would be a difficult sell are: 1) the high-pressures of the round would make it a higher recoiling round than 40 in a Limited gun (a division that doesn't allow compensators), so that would effectively be a disadvantage rather than an advantage 2) Seems like all the guns we are thinking of when discussing shooting Limited with 9mm are not built to handle 9mm major, so that would not advance the idea of having people shoot something they already have/is already popular 3) Factory-made 9mm major is in short supply, which means many of those who shoot the caliber resort to reloading, which then presents another hurdle for the type of person we are talking about here

Reading the above, I think you and I share the same extreme disappointment in what is happening in some LE agencies (I merely have an outsider's view, and I think you probably have a much better finger on the pulse of it). To clarify my position a bit, I am not advocating for yet another 9mm-focused division. I saw this thread as a discussion on the popularity of Limited minor and am thinking through how it's popularity could be increased. I rotate shooting guns in uspsa based on what I feel like shooting at the time and haven't considered minor/major yet even as I know doing so doesn't help me in terms of classification or "moving up" in the sport. The sport is just so fun and I really like being around the people. And, to be honest, it is a little intimidating to be a uspsa newbie.

No, I don't think many would suggest that--based on price alone, I think we can rule that out. But there is actual data behind the record numbers of women and millenials purchasing guns in the past year. Limited minor seems to be a great fit to shoot 9mm + guns with >10 mag capacity + iron sights. Would be great to attract people who could experience the fun of shooting in a much more dynamic setting than the static, slow-fire range.

Seems that single action 9mms are perfect for Limited minor. All those double-stack 1911s/2011s that are super fun to shoot in 9mm (and seem to me to be really popular) should be a natural fit. And at the rate that women and millenials have been buying guns this past year, as some of them get interested in shooting sports, then (I'm secretly hoping) more may shoot in the division.

I shoot Limited minor with my CZ TS2 and love it. I'm new to uspsa and am just excited to shoot a gun i really like. I also shoot a Bul SAS II in 40 for major but the minor/major scoring thing takes a backseat right now to the fun i'm having shooting guns I like. And I suspect there may be other women like me.

I definitely need more practice and more reps here for what you suggest.

Haha I knew there was a secret trick! I'm still in the "I need to wear my lucky socks" phase.

I haven't really thought about how the gun gets out in front of my eyes--I hear the beep and I grab gun and stick it out in front of me. Seems like there's an actual learning aspect here rather than an instinctual one.

Welcome! Lansing area here.

wow i just read through this thread--did he just say that he was done with uspsa and is now taking up golf? I've got a long way to go to get to his level of competitiveness.

I can see how it could feel better for some. The flatness of the trigger would work for me but with my shorter fingers, anytime the trigger is more extended then I start to like it less

yeah I definitely have more to work on. We'll see if I can make steady improvement.

quite honestly, I thought I was going to be able to simply "magically be good with it" but that's not the case

Thank you, I think I can visualize what you're saying. I still need plenty of work on steel as well.

okay thank you for the correction. I went and read a few of the posts about taping the optic lens and I'm going to do that Wednesday and see how it goes.

Oh okay, thanks, I appreciate the input!

I looked at buying a Czechmate and the info I saw said stock is 13lbs. I was going to buy an 11lb to test as well. There’s a couple YouTube vids showing gun shooting with stock 13lb so may give you idea of how flat that shoots with that weight.

Wow happy to hear shooting PCC lets you still be involved in USPSA. My husbands eyes have declined a lot in the last 5-6 years and neither the reading glasses nor the distance glasses are ideal for shooting. him switching to Open after shooting his beloved Limited division was a sad admission of where life is at. So I can empathize with you. Wish you the best!

Saw Saw this gun before and I absolutely love the color combo

I have a G44 with Johnny Glock trigger system and flat-face trigger and I agree with you--it's been super reliable and fun to shoot. And it weighs about one pound, so light and quick. Probably be fun to leave the Scorpion at home and shoot a steel match with it one of these times.

I'm new to uspsa but a long time range shooter. I range shoot solely at 25yds and I feel like shooting at a greater distance there relative to what I see in uspsa matches has made me feel very comfortable shooting all these close up uspsa targets (especially the partially obstructed ones). Does this sound like a viable theory--that with limited ammo and access to only a regular range, one could use what little ammo he/she has to shoot solely at a greater distance and that would be good use? Limited ammo doesn't allow much shooting, and regular range doesn't allow movement, rapid fire.