Cry me a river whoever you are. I wasn't disrespecting the OP, I was stating my opinion which is on you "list" of okay things to say in a forum. I also answered his question with MY OPINION. Maybe you don't want to read about people that spent 4,500 on a pistol and had a bad experience, move on then. The Honcho is a crap gun made by people that give crap customer service, IMO...., with many problems that don't get spoken about very often and I'll let whoever I can know about it! This is America still. Deuces.