Flyingpig

Thanks!! I'll start there!

Got hold of some DG 124gn round nose. Was wondering whats a good starting point (OAL) for a stock Shadow 2 barrel NOT reamed? Thanks in advance.

I run and 11.5# with a plain ole factory firing pin with RAMI pin spring and it lights off everything. Actually both my S2s do. Same setup.

So with this logic you would shoot a 4 yard bill drill differently than you would shoot a 7 yard bill drill? I would argue that top shooters would shoot them exactly the same which is by seeing their sights for both drills with the same splits (or very close to the same splits).

How about .15 splits on 6 yard targets? How about .15 splits in general? Are you telling me that nobody sees their sights at .15 splits? I know A class shooters with .15 splits that see their sights.

So at what distances would you say that top shooters start seeing/watching their sights? I'm curious as to when you think that top shooters might consider paying attention? At distances where you can blow pasters off the target I agree with your assumption. ANYTHING farther than that they are seeing their sights.

I've never seen a top shooter shoot faster than they see their sights. Target focused or sight focused they are still seeing their sights i guarantee. Ask yourself a question. How can you call your shots if you don't see your sights?

I'd be willing to say that they could probably trade guns the morning of the match and neither would would hardly have any difference in there respective performances. All that stuff is a matter of taste and I predict the custom work would hardly make any difference in performance. Further more the worked on gun would barely have a double action of less than 7.5 pounds on a good day. Felt recoil with plus or minus pound springs is minimal at best. Again its a matter of taste. Custom guns aren't going to make a shooter at that level. For a C shooter who never shoots a double action it might make a slight difference

You're joking right? At the very least you're trolling us right?

I had the same problem with the light pin spring in my Shadow 2. I am running a 11.5# hammer spring. I went back to the factory pin spring and it lights of everything including CCI primers. No problems at all. I'm betting you'll be just fine with the factory spring. Also you might want to try the RAMI firing pin springs. They are lighter than the factory CZ 75 spring but not as light as the CGW light spring. I have also used those with no issues.

I use a CGW 11.5# main spring, factory firing pin and factory pin spring. It lights off everything I put through it including CCI, Winchester and others.. I would NOT go any lighter than that for reliability without changing other things.

11.5 hammer spring (cajun) short reset (cajun) 13# recoil spring polish job light trigger return spring and floating trigger pin. had extended pin and light spring but went back to factory pin and spring with no issues. It sets off everything. All work done by myself. Had issues with the light pin spring and didn't feel comfortable with extended pin as it protruded past the pin hole and wasnt all the comfortable filing the pin down.

A place to do some "real" live fire practice (not bulls-eye shooting at a static range) doesn't hurt . A few sessions at a range where you can draw, rapid fire, move etc. can improve your ability by leaps and bounds in a short period of time..

Got mine in November as well. About 30k through the gun. So far a broken slide stop, and broke the nose of of my ejector. Everything else ran fine. Don't think I had a single ammo related malfunction all year. I'll be buying another Shadow 2 shortly. Great guns.

+1 on lighter mainspring. Thats about all you can do. Well...that and a good polish job.

Cgw light return spring. Haven't broke one of those yet. Correct on the slide stop though an a broken nose on the ejector.

Its going to be a tricky proposition here in the US. If I can get a CZ Custom for less I'd be hard pressed not to. We shall see.

Where in my original post did I say anything about a "starting point" ? I've loaded about 4K of these so far for ONE gun (they have functioned just fine for this particular gun from 1.11 to 1.14). I was curious to see what other people are loading for their particular guns. Thats all. Was curious where the average might fall, and what others are doing. Again , lets not make this a lesson in safety or anything more than it actually is.

Awesome run down! Now that I think of it I'm at more like 25k but thats still a lot of rounds. Thanks for the reply!

The cajuns gonna have a much better trigger. I have a P-07 that I use as my carry gun. The only thing I've done with it is a complete polish job. No new parts. The trigger is well....."ok". But I love the gun. it shoots very accurately for me and is a great little gun and a workhorse. I may be a bit spoiled as I shoot a Shadow 2 (with a lot of work) in competition. If your a trigger nut I would go cajun otherwise the P-07 is a fantastic gun. One more thing to add. You wouldn't think so but I think the P-07 is less snappy.than the P-01

Buy a Shadow 2 and shoot production. Then get a couple of extended magazines for three gun. Problem solved.

have you seen a price yet?

Intersting. We shall see what the price is on these before I form an opinion.

Well its that time of year. Figure its about time for a little maintenance. Since I got my S2 last November I've got somewhere in the neighborhood of 30,000 rounds down range. Over the course of the year I have replaced the slide stop(broken) , recoil spring,hammer spring, ejector (broken), and trigger return spring. I'm fixing to do a full breakdown and cleaning any time now and was wondering what parts might be a good idea to change out as long as I have the gun apart. I'm sure some of you have more rounds through yours. What might I want to think about replacing for next season? Thanks in advance.

I'm not meaning to be a prick, but please spare me the comments about reloading safety.