hurley326

Well I stand corrected... partially. It looks like you do have the rear sight optic cut? Do you? If so I can’t see how that could pass at Nationals. States likely but nationals with any external slide machining I would skeptic of. Perhaps there is enough material internally to remove, I haven’t disputed that although it is the road less traveled. Mine makes weight but only with the external slide modifications from Stuart. I guess you could stop millimeters before you actually cut through the slide? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I dont believe that guys gun is internal modifications. My gun weighs about the same and i had work done by CZC. It looks like he did as well from this picture. I think your just assuming there is not any lightning cuts and its all internal but i dont believe it is. The top of slide most likely has a port cut out same as mine to make weight and it ends up being ESP legal as long as you remove the magazine release pad.

Both of our guns above make weight and they aren’t ugly.

Cant be shot in SSP though due to slide machining. Must be used in ESP

Ask and you shall receive. IDPA legal Shadow 2

Bought it from Stuart at CZC. It was his personal tho I don’t know if they have them in the shop but it’s worth asking. I didn’t want to cut up my original slide so I could use it in production. I’ve seen them for sale on here for around $600-700. U could find a used shadow 2 or new at discount site for around $1,000 - $1,100 if you look enough so that’s not a bad option either. Looking back I should have just done that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I started this project more as just a test to show it could be done. I bought a second slide which I had milled for carry optics uspsa and figured why not just spend a few more bucks to make it a multi game multi division gun. Uspsa production and carry optics Idpa esp and carry optics I’ll have to post the specs and pictures when I get home. It’s just under 43 oz. I’m going to post an extensive thread on it. You also need to take off the magazine release pad as per 8.1.7.D. I don’t think the fact it’s OEM matters. This has been a lesser discussed aspect of making this work for IDPA

I have a shadow 2 that i got milled for carry optics USPSA from CZC. They took weight out from inside and made a 2 inch or so long cutout at the top. Putting the RDS fixed sight plate on and this could be used for ESP couldn't it? It would make weight. https://czcustom.com/custom-work/s-i-rds-plate-cut-shadow-2-co.html https://czcustom.com/rds-plate-fixed-shadow2-sight.html

from my understanding from talking with the cajun guys this is a classic cz timing issue with the DA. I just fixed the issue with mine thanks to their help. Essentially you need to file off material where line C meets line D in this image provided above. You cant put material back so go SLOW and light and retest often. its barely any material you take off. The second you see that material is removed its time to test it.

I agree... but when I told CZ USA they said “that’s normal it’s a competition pistol.” I stressed to them no matter what they claim I know 100% this isn’t normal I didn’t start shooting last week. I understand the TSO is a competition gun and they are hoping to achieve a 1-2lb pull. I see most around 1.5lb but none at .50 or less! Their response was “send it in for warranty”. Also, I did try springs from CZC and Cajun Gun works and neither spring increases the weight by half pound. I tried both trigger return springs and sear springs. It’s not the trigger return spring that is going to increase weight though, it’s going to be the sear spring. I also used a Tanfoglio sear spring that has a full extra coil and that increased the weight around .20 on average.

Lyman digital. Gun in a vice to avoid movement. Measuring at bottom, middle and top of the trigger and averaging out the pull weight. Also pulling 5 pulls each to average out. And as comparison to make sure my scale isn’t jacked up im comparing it to a CZ Shadow 2 from Cajun gun world. The trigger pull weights in both double action and single that were notated on my gun when i received it from CGW, are matching the weights I’m getting with my scale. So the scale is accurate and my method of using the scale is accurate.

i am in this same boat! I got a TSO and the trigger pull is alarming light at 1/3 pound and after adjusting the set screw in trigger i was able to get it up just above to about 1/5lb or .60 but it adds just mush rather than the normal pre travel under light tension i am used to. I even tried adding the tanfoglio sear spring and that only added barely .15 to the pull. I called CZ and they said its normal but i know thats BS bc the gun isnt meant to be that light. I could see 1lb to 1.5lb but half pound is just ridiculous. So i may send the gun back in for warranty work. They mentioned something to do with hammer and sear engagement, but i tried a different hammer and nothing changed. Perhaps i need to try a new sear before i send the gun for warranty? I appreciate any input.

I am also interest to know if the regular CM C More mount will work. I know there is talk of the TSO not having the same tri top slide cuts, but would that make the standard mount not work? I assume the underbody of the mount could be milled if needed for clearance. I have a mount on order so I will be able to tell when it arrives, I just would rather know the answer now since its an International order that may take some time. Thanks.

I just got a TSO and have about 200 rounds through it. My trigger pull is at 5.6 ounces which is really confusing to me. I had to add insane amount of pre travel and bend the trigger return spring and sear spring to get me at 10 ounces. I contacted CZ and told them I was concerned that it’s not normal to be at less than 1/2 pound from the factory and they told me I shouldn’t be concerned and it’s fine!! I’m shocked so I might have to resort to sending it in. And I’m testing with a digital gauge with the gun in a vice and the gauge is confirmed to be accurate since it measures the same as Cajun gun works quoted me on my Shadow 2 I got from them.

Ive debated getting this thumb rest or one of the Double Alpha ones. They make the DAA in a regular width similar but maybe a little less wide as this, and then a new slimmer version. How do you feel about this one?