The Surgeon

300 WM is capable out to 1500 yards to kill and about 2100 for paper. The 300 Rum has about 200 yards further on the 300 Win mag. Ammo is easier to find for the 300 WM.

It's a long action. As far as the base get a one piece picatiny with a 20 MOA can't. Invest some money into the base and rings, you'll cry about it at first but later you'll be glad you did.

For those, the only ones I know of are here in Oklahoma, Texas and further west. Sorry I could not help you out any better than that.

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I have been looking at this reticle for some time now. Does one need to have the software for this reticle to get the full capabilities out of it? I have a NightForce and absolutely love the thing. I can count the hairs on a fly's ass at a 100 yards. Their customer service is great. Another thing I like about NightForce, of course its not that big of a deal, is their rings. When I bought my NF scope and rings I didn't have to bore sight. The POI was only off 2.25" at 100 yards, but my base is integrated into the receiver so this may have made the difference. Another nice item is NF puts out their own Ballistics software. Again, not a big deal but it is nice.

Hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching. Surgeon

What software are you using? As long range precision shooting continues to catch on, many software developers are offering the user a choice in the two models. +1 to Jakers.

for every (1 inch) you gain you will also gain about 50 fps. The same rule applies to every inch you cut off.

I had forgot about this one. He's right, I would definitely go with the SS over the Vortex. The SS is kind of a sleeper brand. You don't here a lot about them but when you do, it is all positive. +1 MRAD

Take a look at the Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50, it also has a 30mm tube. It will handle the 308.

Well... I can tell you what I did. I am running a 308 Surgeon and I have a NightForce 5.5-22x56 MRAD and it handles the gun very well. What caliber are you getting into? You can get into the NF's for around $1,800 - $2,200 new and around $1,300 - $1,500 used.

also... If you like to deal with MOA's then make sure the turrets are also MOA. ex: 1/8th inch MOA scope, make sure the turrets are also MOA If yo like to deal with Mil-Dot scopes, make sure the turrets are in Mils. Do not get a Mil-Dot scope and it have MOA turrets on it. It will make your math a bit harder.

Most important rule when picking out a scope: Match the optics capabilities to the capabilities of the rifle. I see so many guns that are capable of so much and have glass on them that hold the rifle back. Do not short change the weapon with a optic that has no chance of handling the distance that the rifle is. If you follow this rule, you will be happy.

They are fine on a 5.56. Buddy has one and has sent several rounds down a tube with a NcStar Mk III. Its a $100 optic, you get the quality you pay for. For just "playing" around out to 100 - 300 yards its okay. Yes, there are a lot better optics out there. Bigger calibers than a 5.56, then I would say no.

Yes and no but It depends on what optics you are trying to compare. Like Spartacus said, it is the quality of the glass, tracking ability, turrets, and other things. But what everyone notices is the clarity of the glass. When you get to long, extreme ranges you are going to really see the difference in a cheaper optic compared to a high end. It is hard to really see the difference in the two price lines of scopes if you are inside a store. Take them outside and look at an object at about 1,000 to 1,500 yards, you will then see the difference. most of those $2,000 scopes you could count the hairs on a Fly's ass at a 100 yards. Does one have to spend this kind of money to shoot out to a grand or 1,500 yards? No The added features of a larger tube, increased magnification, great glass, etc are great to have and make the job a lot easier but they are not necessary. I did a lot of testing with a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x56mm and we did a considerable amount of shooting from 100 yards to 1,500 yards. The scope tracked very well, the turrets had positive clicks, the glass was really good (For the price), and the overall finish of the optic was very pleasing. The Vortex had a good eye relief and a considerable amount of internal adjustments. The Vortex PST, with all its quality, listed for around $900. Is the Vortex a NightForce? No, but the Vortex will do the job and so will any other optic in its price range.

Look forward to seeing you rifle when completed.

Call some of the custom gun builders like GA Precision, Louisiana Precision, Gruning Precision, BlackOps Precision, Venom Tactical, etc and see if they may have a left hand available that they could sell you. These guys are going to have a better chance of getting a Rem 700 Left hand than most folks. If the custom builders can not help you out, I would try and get lucky in finding a used Rem 700 left hand. If that fails, your only option is to go with a custom built action.

I like the groups from the 168 AMax, 0.45" group. The rifle is defiantly capable of - .5MOA.

If you are thinking of Surgeon Rifles, no. That is Preston Prichette over by Prauge, Oklahoma.

First off if you are looking to gain a bit more accuracy: Change the stock $350 - $650 Bed the stock $100 Trigger job or swap to a Timiney or Jewel $80 - $275 Gun Smith probably $150 - $225 These three things will improve the overall accuracy of the gun and it will not be that bad on your pocket book. I would not change the barrel unless I was ready to true the action up. By changing the barrel you are not going to gain that much unless you go to the source of the problem and that is in the action. Truing up the action can be anywhere from $300 - $500 depending on how much gravy you add to the action. Barrel can cost you anywhere from about $250 and up. When you do get into a barrel go to a heavy barrel, the harmonics are better on a heavy vs a sport barrel. The Modular stocks are going to be more expensive, anywhere from $675 and up. I a have seen them around $1600 for some modulars.

Well it helps to have a gun that is shooting sub-MOA. But nevertheless it is not really that easy especially with a gun shooting 1"MOA. 1MOA at 500 yards is a 5" group. If you are looking for 1"groups at 500 yards then your are expecting to much from a gun the is only capable of 1MOA. If you are trying to hit 1/2 targets at ranges from 100 yards and greater it helps to have a gun that produces sub-MOA. If your gun is only capable of 1MOA you are going to end up getting very discouraged and start trying to change things up in your form, in fact its not you, necessarily. If you are producing 1" groups at 100 yards then your gun is considered a 1MOA gun. That is the best that gun can do is 1MOA at any distance, depending on the shooter. But the gun has proven that it is capable of 1MOA. So this gun, in the theory of MOA, should produce groups at : 200yrds = 2" 300yrds = 3" 400yrds = 4" 500yrds = 5" and so on. Now if you are shooting sub-MOA, then it is shooting better than 1MOA and the gun will produce better than 1MOA "depending on the shooter." But the gun is capable of it. Example: .5" MOA @ 100 yrds = .5" groups at 100 yards 200 yrds = 1" 300 yrds = 1.5" 400 yrds = 2.0" 500 yrds = 2.5" 600 yrds = 3.0" So to answer your question "Is it possible to hold under 1MOA at 500 yards and can a good shooter keep groups under 3/4MOA"? The answer is yes, as long as the gun is capable of producing groups better than 1MOA or the gun is considered to be Sub-MOA. For the shooter to keep groups under 3/4 MOA (.75) the gun has to consistently produce and be capable of shooting better than (Not equal to) 3/4 MOA. Considering that the gun is capable, then a "Good Shooter" can keep them in the guidelines that you asked about.

Nice Rifle!Seen it over at the "Hide"

First off I will say that I can not handle recoil due to shoulder replacement, that being said... The increased weight of a gun is your friend in a few ways. 1. Reduce felt recoil 2. Stabilizes gun 3. increases accuracy With the weight of my Surgeon 308 w/Break, I am generating 2.9 lbs of felt recoil and I am getting .25 MOA/100yrds.

Yes it will work. The 1:12 twist will work on bullets up to around 185-190 grains, anything larger and you loose stabilization. The 175's will go subsonic quicker and then you loose accuracy.

Either way, you'll love the optic.