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Well, I'm retiring in a few months, and I've applied for several jobs in TX. Maybe I'll make it back next year.

Looking at the video I posted, I think he only engaged one target set while moving. And those targets were quite close, within that 3-5m, IIRC. I assume you include the AMU team under the rubric of 'successful shooters"?

I shot Walking Dead the first year they did it, back in 2012. No lasers allowed. Also, it was 2-gun, no shotguns. I can see where lasers would be useful, especially on the pistol. I just remember what a PITA it was to boresight the PAQ-4/PEQ-2 back when I was still in the infantry. But once you got it good, you could hipshoot targets at 200m.

IIRC, the Crimson Trace sponsored match was in Oregon. Is it still around?

Maybe a dumb question, but how many night matches allow lasers? I've only shot two, but neither one allowed lasers. (Except for one sponsored stage, shot using sponsor-provided NVGs with a suppressed Glock with an IR laser.)

SSG Joel Turner of the USAMU, Stage 1 at FN USA in September. Shooting while moving, with one hand. Note the slight bend in the knees, and rolling the feet.

A trick/SOP we used doing night gunnery when I was stationed in Germany was to hang a red chemlight on the front of the turret, and a green on the back. If the tower saw the red light, they called cease fire until the crew pulled their heads out of their butts. Might not need two lights, but I'm sure you could figure out some variant.

I console myself by thinking of the money I'm saving on match fees, ammo, gas, hotel, etc.

7.3.2.3 doesn't say anything about magazine holders, only magazine capacity. There's nothing that says you can't have a mag holder on a 1913 rail. As long as you don't put a mag that holds more than 30 rounds in it.

This is specific to the military folks...that time when you're waiting for your next set of change of station orders. (I'm retiring this year, so it's a job hunt instead of change of station, but the same principle applies.) You don't know where you're going to go, so you can't sign up for major matches that may be close to home. Your summer is basically blown anyway due to moving. So 2016 will be a year with no major matches (as was 2013, the last time the Army relocated me.)

When I worked at FN last fall, I counted shots on the shotgun (if the shooter used it; it was optional on our stage) if I wasn't the primary RO running the shooter. There was one shooter that I thought fired 10 without a reload - but he was just so quick with his matchsaver, with the gun not leaving his shoulder, that I missed it. (My view was also obstructed by his body; primary had a better view and saw the load.) If you have multiple ROs, detailing a secondary to count shots is probably the way to go if you're worried about the issue.

I don't think I've ever shot a match that counted rounds on a matchsaver or any other shell holder attached to the outside of the gun against capacity limits. What I have seen is a shooter who was so slick and quick with loading his matchsaver that I thought he had overloaded his gun.

OK, I got the Taccom extension tube on my 870 and dug out the holster and mag holders for the 1911...now I just have to find the PPU M2 ball for the Rifle That Goes PING! and I'll be ready to play heavy on the 30th. (And if I put the original parts back on the 870, it'd be C&R eligible alongside the M1. Old guns FTW!)

Nope. This is why the word SHOT is defined in the glossary as a round passing through the barrel. Your fault, my fault, nobody's fault, it's a DQ. I don't think I've ever seen shooting through a barrel being a DQ, unless the barrel is also a barrier. Most of the barrels at matches I've participated in were downrange, and get shot quite a bit, especially if they're obscuring shotgun targets.

If there are no "accidents"...ever seen a belt-fed machinegun go runaway gun without the trigger being pulled, the gunner's hand not even on the grip? Because I have. (Worn sear let the bolt go when the feed tray cover was closed - with authority - after loading a belt. And no, diagnosing a worn sear before it fails is not an operator-level maintenance task. It's generally beyond the ability of most unit armorers.) Or the other mentioned examples where some part of the trigger mechanism failed, allowing the gun to go auto - who's negligent? The shooter who can't diagnose metal fatigue with the naked eye? The designer who didn't build the mechanism so that if the part fails, the gun will simply not fire instead of going Glock 18? We're getting off topic, and I'm aiding and abetting thread drift in my own thread. I guess my argument, rules wise, for differentiating between negligent (shooter error) and accidental (mechanical failure) would be that, if it was a mechanical failure, all rounds went in a safe direction, and the shooter is able to either repair the weapon and show the RO/MD/whomever that the weapon is now safely functional, or switch to a back-up weapon, that shooter would be able to continue (with a very ugly score for the stage where the gun went Tango Uniform, and any stage he was unable to shoot while conducting repairs) instead of getting a match DQ. Or do the rules already address this?

I wonder if the rules just use AD for everything for insurance liability reasons - so if there's an unintended discharge, and someone gets hurt, a lawyer can't say "Look, right there in your rule book - it says 'negligent.' Pay up."

Maybe my military background is confusing me, but I can't be the only one...when rule sets refer to "Accidental discharge." (It hit me as a result of reading this thread.) In my Army experience (20 years), there are two different terms for "weapon firing when it's not supposed to," based on what caused it. An Accidental Discharge is the result of a mechanical failure of the weapon which leads the weapon to fire. The only time I've seen one of these in a shooting competition was when one of my squad mates at TXMG '12 had a sear failure on his pistol, and it went full auto. First round was intentional, the second and subsequent rounds were ADs. (He did manage to keep all the rounds downrange and into the berm. Took a zero for the stage and proceeded with his back up pistol.) A slamfire would be another example of an Accidental Discharge. A Negligent Discharge is caused by the shooter pulling the trigger and firing the weapon when he's not supposed to, or when the weapon is pointed in an unsafe direction. Whether deliberate or not, the shooter pulled the trigger, and the weapon fired. Most of what is described in various rulesets as "Accidental discharge" seems to be to be more properly called a "Negligent discharge. Why don't the rules descriptions use the term ND?

To throw something else into the mix - I bought a CZ-712U back when that was the budget semi-auto du jour. The 930 JM had been out for a bit, but was still having teething troubles, which it apparently hasn't outgrown yet. The M3000, much less the M3K, wasn't on the scene yet. My 712U has run flawlessly for me, as long as I keep it (very) well lubed. (Girls in bikinis wrestling in baby oil? They're dry compared to how my -712U likes it.) It has run everything I've fed it, mostly Rio target loads and Fiochi slugs, but it ran fine with Wally World Federal bulk as well. The only times I've had any issues was when I cleaned it and didn't oil it up enough after. That tends to result in failures to fully eject, solved by application of more lube. The biggest downside to the 712 is the lack of 3-gun type accessory parts for it. It uses Benelli mag tubes, but finding an oversize charging handle took forever, and only happened because someone else with a 712, who happened to be a machinist, decided to make his own and then some. If I was to do it again with a 712, I'd get one of their 26" barrelled models, simply so I could do a 12 round tube without it sticking like 18" past the barrel.

This is how I do it, the muzzle stays down as I loosen the VTac sling and pull the sling over my head. I'm slow, and have no illusion on being at the top of the results. That's how I've always done it as well. At least one club that I've shot at required rifles be muzzle down (and unloaded/no mag) when slung. (The same club also banned the use of single point slings.) Getting un-slung was easy with my AR. Required a bit of contortion when I was using my Garand.

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Hail Mary...is that like throwing in a 600m bonus target where you get a 30 second bonus if you hit it with one shot?

I can't find it either. I bought mine from Midway. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/262584/seekins-precision-low-mass-bolt-carrier-assembly-ar-15-223-remington-melonite

I'm just going to guess, but most of the preferred shotguns for this game come from the factory with traditional stocks. The traditional stock works well enough for the vast majority of shooters, so why spend the $ to change it? And if the LOP is off, your nieghborhood 'smith is probably well equipped, and has plenty of experience, to either fit shims or sand it down. Then there's the previously mentioned issue that playing with the stock has the potential to mess with the function of the gun. I'd imagine this is more of an issue with guns that have the spring in the stock.

Yup, Cavalier. And everytime, I can't remember which way the tick marks on the chokes go, and end up shooting the first stage with a cylinder choke.

One of my local matches frequently uses sections of heavy steel 4" pipe, sitting on 6" steel platforms, as shotgun targets. The range is pretty short, mostly under 10 yards, but you still have to get a solid hit using #7.5 target loads, because they're heavy and you have to actually shove them backward off the platform, instead of just getting them to fall over. Full choke is almost mandatory.