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Davidwiz - thank you very much for posting that link - I had not seen that one before. Interesting that even Brady Campaign/HCI predicts, at a minimum, a 5/4 decision in favor of an individual right. The link David posted is to a story by abcnews.go.com reporter Teddy Davis. Reporter Davis (unfortunatley) included the following quote from Brady Campaign Attorney Dennis Henigan: [Henigan] "said there are multiple gun control measures that would not run afoul of a Supreme Court decision striking down the D.C. gun ban. "Universal background checks don't affect the right of self-defense in the home. Banning a super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons, also would not adversely affect the right of self-defense in the home," said Henigan." (emphasis mine). Two things struck me about that quote: 1)"super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons" is a misleading, and unfortunate, description of the sporting arms used by most of this website's members who choose to participate in multigun/3gun competition. And, 2) Henigan believes the opinion will be framed by the Court as protecting "the right of self-defense in the home." I believe the Court may go further to strike down D.C.'s law prohibiting a certain class of weapons suitable for home defense: handguns (Henigan would probably also mischaracterize handguns as "super dangerous" - even as the Court is poised to find their possession by civilians to be a constitutionally protected right). I believe "handgun ownership" will be addressed because the Court' chose to include "handguns" when they rejected all the suggestions as to how to phrase the question they will answer, and substituted their own issue (question) to be resolved (answered). Next dates to watch are Monday, June 16th and Monday, June 23 (the likely date of issuance IMHO). D.

I appreciate those fine photos even though we live close enough to hear the bugle from Arlington for taps in the evening and revelie every morning. Living near D.C. has its downsides for sure. Thanks for reminding me of its upsides too.

ps i owe you lunch

Mark call me tomorrow. I bought $100 worth of parts that are likely worth a lot more - I probably have your safety - but call soon - baby's mama due any day now.

Sorry to hear about this development. It is becoming so common to hear of range closures.

It is a REALLY hollow base - guys - these bullets resemble a traditional 12 gauge lead slug or a civil war "minnie ball". The cavernous hole in the base of this particular bullet REALLY increases the effective case capacity so much so that there is no comparing these to a flat base like a SWC. I would not view the "SWC max load" as bing the same safe max load for the bullet you are actually using here.

Yup. 2 Thought about that one but these are not plated bullets. The bullet is a Frontier 160 FMJ and it has a stong jacket. Also nothing on the target to indicate that the jacket was fragmenting or coming apart. I went as far as digging up a couple of shot bullets and the jacket is completely intact. It is just bugging the crap out of me not knowing what is causing it. Frontier out of South Africa? I use those too. They are plated. Unless Frontier has come out with a new product that it. Generally the cores are hardcast - unlike all the US made plated bullets - though they also make a swaged core electroplated bullet. But both types of Frontier are plated or if you prefer Speer's double-speak "TMJ'd or bonded". Do a search on "Frontier" - someone posted a photo of the phenomenon you are talking about. My Frontier loads did the same thing - though the accuracy is excellent and the price used to be very good.

Sad to say it looks like we are still on "stand-by" until at least Thursday: From today's scotusblog: "Today’s unanimous opinion by Justice Thomas in Quanta v. LG (06-937) is available here. Today’s unanimous opinion by Justice Alito in Allison Engine v. United States (07-214) is available here. Today’s 6-3 opinion by Chief Justice Roberts in Engquist v. Oregon Dept. of Agriculture (07-474) is available here. Justice Stevens issued a dissenting opinion in which Justices Souter and Ginsburg joined. Today’s unanimous opinion by Justice Thomas in Bridge v. Phoenix Bond & Indemnity (07-210) is now available here." Many have predicted that the Heller decision will be the last decision they issue before recess & their usual summer vacation. However it comes down, there will be some unhappy people around D.C. & I would not want to hang around listening to the bellyaching if I were one of the Justices. Still it would be a nice Thursday surprise if it comes out then.

Thanks for the entertaining link! I plugged the term in over at YouTube and there are a bunch of videos of these monsters - including something called a "gasoline launch" - not sure if it included a bowling ball or not, but at night, it looked really fearsome. As far as re-using the bowling balls, I Googled it and one guy mentioned launching these over a pond or lake & apparently, bowling balls float! Just collect them with a row boat & reuse. The things you learn on the interweb these days!

Thanks for the heads up Shred! From Scotusblog today (Sunday June 8): "On Monday, the Court is expected to release at least one opinion, as well as orders from the Justices’ private conference last Thursday. In addition, the Court is expected to release the argument calendar for the October sitting next term. On Thursday, the Court is expected to at least one opinion, after which they are scheduled to hold a private conference, orders from which are expected to be issued the following Monday, June 16." Odd timing. Wonder if this week is THE week?

I bet they were surprised.

No - that is not a safe assumption. (welcome aboard BTW) Here is the problem: sometimes the "max published loads" you refer to use powder and load combinations that have been found unsafe. In ANY gun. As the charge increases, the resulting peak pressure "spike" may increase in a linear fashion, or it might be a very steep curve that is unpredictable. Some time back, there was an article in Front Sight about one reloader's experience working up a hotter 9mm load with (I believe) Bullseye. The chrono showed steady increases until suddenly the velocity was WAY off the chart and (luckily) the gun just held together. Plus, for the new reloader, there are other dangers to learn about, including set back. Don't assume all published data can be exceeded. BUT - read on: Good news! 1) Besides the published loads (which have been tested as safe) there are hotter loads that are safe and our humble forum here is the place to find them. Leave the expiramenting to the more experience loaders and just read up on loads here for info. WARNING: many hot 9mm loads you see here will have an OAL that is WAY TOO LONG for your CZ. DON'T USE THOSE LOADS!!! They cannot simply be shortened. 2) Your CZ-SP-01 is an extremely strong gun; about the only guns regularly used to digest a steady diet of hot 9mm (+p++) we call 9Major are: ramped barrel 1911s, "75" or CZs and their clones and some Glocks with aftermarket barrels. The SP-01's barrel is EVEN THICKER than the old TZ-75s that digested 175 Power Factor ammo back in the early 90s. 3) Though the 9mm is not a very good caliber for Pins, there happens to be a heavy 147 load from Vihta Vouri that is safe and should get you to about 1100+ FPS - I believe its either with N105 or 3N38. Please use the MAX OAL for that load. 4) Finally, for steel you want a lighter load with a light bullet. What you are using should be fine.

I agree. Just add: "the way to beat the purely "money making" system in this case." We all want safe streets. Cameras fail to make streets any safer; it is the doubling of the length of the yellow light (which the camera operation corporations do - but fail to tell the public). If my goverment is too dishonest to reveal their real motive behind these cameras (revenue generation) why would anyone feel the least bit of guilt for avoiding this bit of governmental corruption?

Another factor to consider is this: lack of refining capacity. That lack of capacity, combined with Katrina, caused major problems after the storm. It is still a tight-spot in the supply loop & it only benefits the specualtors. There has not been a new refinery built in the US in 30 years. I personally think the environmentalists & other opponents have stymied efforts on the refining front - although I would not want a refinery near my home (who would?) and they have also been very very effective in preventing any new nuclear power plant construction - despite the fact that they don't emit carbon (if we stopped using any petroleum for heating and electricity generation, would't there be more for vehicle use and lower demand?). Good news is: -America's first new refinery is going to be built in S.D.! American built, American owned, and run by Americans! LINK to article http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2...45e00110beb.txt Looks like a positive development no matter what side of the debate you are on.

From the current systems out, the plate recognition software needs work; it is not too reliable. As far as systems in general, one important feature is the ability for the officer to control the recording and the ablity to maintain physical custody (or lack thereof if you catch my drift) and ideally to be able to erase portions. Might want to check w/ the Union and get their take before deciding on a system.

I am with Nik, Jim, and Flex here. Just as a suggestion: we have many table starts both in match stages and in a few classifiers. I'd argue these are very different from holster starts. Does a table start call for extra caution on the shooter's part? - I think maybe so. Where there is a table start, would it be permissible for either the stage designer or the match directors to add to these stage descriptions something like??: "Hits striking the table will constitute USGH and will result in a match DQ." Just a thought.

There are certainly better machinists & gunsmiths posting here (like Brian H.) but I will simply add: bigsaxdog: you are right to try to improve on what we have currently. -focus on fitting with the barrel and slide in place. -problem with endmills and boring bars is they risk enlarging the hole in the frame (which the Wilson tool avoids doing). -a higher precision version of the Wilson tool would be a good start, for example, one that takes radial forces out of the equation by ditching the little crank handle and perhaps indexing the set up in the mill and driving through the mill head -see if you can locate a maker of very small "shell mills" that use a solid center shank, with the mill "shell" attached to the outside.

If you are doing 75 MPH on a motorcycle and one of them collides with any part of your body, you will do more than just hear it. The 17 year eruption 3 or 4 years back turned into a mess around here. Trying to jog without stepping all over them looked more like dancing or something from the "ministry of silly walks."

The 6.5x55mm is the same length as a .30-06. A .308 necked to 6.5 (the .260 Remington) will fit a medium action 700 or an AR-10 and can match the old Swede - but either gun is considered too big by today's military and the ammo is too heavy. One proposed solution is to pack the punch (or most of it) of the .260 into a cartridge that is no longer than the .223. The 6.8, the Whispers, the Grendle and a few others are trying to get there. I don't like the lenght of the 6.5x55, but the ballistics are wonderful. Great on deer usually translates pretty well to two legged critters. That's why I brought up the grendle. I think it is a good modern rendition of the old 6.5 caliber rounds. We tried really powerful (30-06) and really small (55 gr 5.56) It makes sense to try somthing in between. Short term solution. I just tried some Barnes Varmit Grenades. I like 'em. My only 6.5x55mm is the old "WWII Swedish Assault Rifle" - an M41 Ljungman Semi Auto. It was ahead of its time when it was built in 1941 and it has the accuracy to bring the heat at 800 meters all day long - with little recoil. Even has a DI gas system like the AR-15. As far as the round's lethality, I asked my old uncle Skip about it & he took a lot of Alaskan moose with his 6.5x55mm when he worked up there for the US Geological Survey. Said its a lot more deadly than its give credit for - at least on this side of the pond. But I'm off topic again (old age sucks sometimes). d

The M855 added a little weight over the 55 grn we used in Vietnam. More weight is never a bad thing - unless it starts to really drop the velocity & increase the recoil. But, what the M855 REALLY brought to the table was a steel core which enhanced its ability against helmets and armor. In Iraq, body armor has saved MANY U.S. soldier's lives. I am not aware of our current combat opponents using armor (yet) - but when they eventually wise up and "up armor" their bodies, the M855 might come in handy. The 6.5x55mm is the same length as a .30-06. A .308 necked to 6.5 (the .260 Remington) will fit a medium action 700 or an AR-10 and can match the old Swede - but either gun is considered too big by today's military and the ammo is too heavy. One proposed solution is to pack the punch (or most of it) of the .260 into a cartridge that is no longer than the .223. The 6.8, the Whispers, the Grendle and a few others are trying to get there. NATO standardization will be an issue and a road-block though. Hence, the use of the "SMK" 77 grain loading for the M4 and A2/3. But, the M4's 14.5" barrel is another hurdle even for the newer SMK. Our military used to change calibers and platforms every few years. The M16 and the 5.56mm have been in service far longer than other service weapons. Maybe its time for BOTH a new caliber and weapon design? (I personally like the Tavor - but that is just me).

Well that clearly takes the cake for crazy! 50cc?!?! Stunned.

So what round will "stop an enemy immdediately in close quarters." 00 Buck? This will: "The Russian military issue 5N7-specification 5.45 mm bullets are a somewhat complex full metal jacket design. The bullet's core consists mainly of a length of soft steel rod, cut to length during the manufacturing process to give the correct weight. There is a hollow air space ahead of the steel rod behind the bullet tip. The base of the bullet is tapered to reduce drag (a boat-tail bullet) and there is a small lead plug crimped in place in the base of the bullet. The lead plug, in combination with the air space at the point of the bullet, has the effect of moving the bullet's center of gravity to the rear; the hollow air space also makes the bullet's point prone to deformation when the bullet strikes anything solid, inducing yaw." LINK

"New York CITY!!?!" "-get a rope."

This was an enjoyable read with some GREAT pics of our fine country. LINK to the SV forum ride report or try: http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=54706 Maybe someday . . . .

With Steel Challenge now under USPSA control and rules, this topic is timely. As ROs, how do we deal with the competitor in the .22 Division who refuses to comply with the range command "If clear, hammer down . . ." Seems many competitors on this thread would have a problem with the range commands.