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Duane, I did what you told me to do, you are correct and I am wrong! Here is the story. I am a 1911 fan,still am. Bought a Glock 17. Put maybe 500 rounds thou it. Took the slide apart for the first time, put it back together, went to the range, gun doubled sometimes then went full auto! Went back to the house, took the slide apart to discover the extractor spring assembly was in backwards,turned it around, went back to the range. Gun has run fine since then. I now realize the extractor should not have solved the problem. Maybe something trapped the safety plunger in the down position then came out? Anyway,thanks for the heads up.

Duane, Take out the extractor depressor plunger assembly, turn it around,put it back in the gun. The gun will now double or go full auto sometimes because the firing pin safety is now catching in the down position on the turned around extractor assembly spring. When it catches, the firing pin will protrude from the breachface going into battery and give you a sometimes full auto glock!

If you put the extractor plunger spring in backwards, the safety plunger will catch on the extractor spring and cause the gun to double now and then. Really!

If you put the extractor plunger spring in backwards, the safety plunger will catch on the extractor spring and cause the gun to double now and then. Really!

If this information had been posted for last year's match, I would not have driven two hours one way only to be told by Sam I could not shoot because of the wrong gear! I asked if I could shoot the match for no score, same answer,NO! A long two hour drive home, never to return again. Dave Staub

John, I have for example, had two different I.C. chokes pattern high or low used in the same gun. I realize what a pain it would be to have different chokes on hand to try so I guess you need to stick with what you have. Something that worked for me was to use a tight choke and shoot from no more than 20 yds to get very distinct pattern to see if I am off one way or another. I have found, using good factory shells that five shots can produce five different looking patterns if you are shooting them at distance. Hang in there. Most people do not bother to pattern their guns. Your effort to do so will result in more broken targets! .

How far away are you from your target and what choke are you using? Different chokes may pattern high, low, left, right. How many shots do you take to determine what the pattern is?

Viggen, click on page two to read what I had to say about 16 inch rifle length barrels and trust me, it is the truth! I have the exact same barrel and yes, mine is a tact driver too! I would bet that a carbine buffer spring in your gun would make you a happy camper! Oh yeah,my gas port is .100. Another thing, do not put heavy grease on the buffer spring as it will slow the action down.

Jim, when are the stages and round count going to be posted?

Have you ever fired that with out the comp attached? I just wondering if it made any difference in cycling. Yes I have, no problems!

David, For the past 6 years I have been using two different 16 inch barreled guns for 3 gun matches. No problems at all! One is light; the other is heavy. Both gas ports are .100,3 inches from the end of the barrel.The hole location will be determined by how far the rifle length gas tube goes into your receiver with the carrier installed. Make sure it does not bottom out in the carrier key or your bolt and carrier will not close. Every thing else in both guns is stock except for a light buffer, carbine buffer spring, and a rolling thunder comp. Both guns will run light or heavy ammo. Everyone comments on how soft both guns shoot! Do it, you will be happy!

Dean, thanks to you and whoever else had anything to do with with making this match happen! Congrats to the class winners, they earned it! RAIN! ALL DAY! Could not have gotten any more wet unless i dove under water, which i tried to do on stage 7 shooting the low port. Then after the first shot, mud got on my scope and my glasses, and that was all she wrote! Did i have fun, yup. would i do it again yup! GREAT prize table! My DPMS 45 rounder crapped out on stage 1 but then i picked up a 48 round Lancer off the prize table. Cant wait for next year! Dave Staub

To everyone who did not attend this match, you missed a good one! Fun stages, great ROs, got to watch out you don't get Tom Beck though, he will make your gun jam! He will even warn you ahead of time! Also, a great lunch! So there is no prize table, ITS A THREE GUN MATCH AND THAT MEANS FUN! Cant wait for next year. Dave Staub

Thank you.

What ever happened to the promised stage results ?

Mike, need a round count, rifle, pistol, birdshot, slugs, buckshot. Looking forward to the match

Dean, great to have people like you in our sport. Some would have said, screw it, I need to go shoot something! Call it the Area 8 Multi Gun, Dean's Match, I don't care, it's a 3 gun match and I can't wait to shoot it! What to expect at a Dean's Match? A lot of fun and probably some nasty stuff! Can't wait! Seriously Dean, thanks for staying with it! Dave Staub

Dean,great to have people like you in our sport.

Gary - On "Good Day at Black Rock" scored hits are "per time plus scoring" which seem to be different from the rest of the stages. What does "plus scoring mean"? Also, what does "plus bonus for accuracy" mean in the explanation you gave on your post about scoring. How is the chrono to be run? Separate stage? Use your guns or competitors? Thanks.

Except for a slight slug problem now and then, my Browning Gold has run 100% on birdshot for years ... really. All of a sudden, on occasion, after firing a round the next shell remains in the magazine tube held by the carrier latch. Gold owners know that after firing a shot the next shell normally comes out of the magazine tube about 5/8 inch. What is happening is that the shell is remaining flush with the magazine tube. To cure the problem as it happens, I pull the bolt back, release it, pull it back again, and it feeds normally. I researched Browning Gold problems and could not come up with this particular one. I have periodically, as needed, changed the carrier latch spring (shortened), mag tube spring, main spring, and anything else that looked worn. Does anyone know if Jerry Harp can be contacted? He seems to have disappeared.

Nick Thanks once again for the response. Good explanation -- I think I get it. I think I will get an adjustable gas block, some buffers, and springs and go at it. I will let you know how I make out. This may take some time. Once again, thanks. Dave

Fastshooter thank you for responding. Please excuse my ignorance -- I do not know what a delrin buffer is. In my gun is a stock carbine buffer. It weighs 3 ounces. My friends do not cut off springs ... my idea. My shooting friends with JP lightweight systems tell me they run their gas system wide open for reliability. Can you explain the difference between carbine and rifle springs and why you would use one versus the other? Thanks a bunch. Dave

Got bored the other day and removed bolt, carrier, buffer and spring. Everyone I know is running a light weight buffer, carrier. I took the weights out of my buffer and ground everything off the carrier that I could. Took 1 ounce off of carrier, cut 3 coils off recoil spring. Went to the range and did not see any difference in felt recoil or double taps. Why not? I know most people that run lightweight systems have adjustable gas blocks but at least the ones I know run them wide open. My gun is a 16-inch heavy barrel rifle gas system, Cooley comp - runs 100%.