NicVerAZ Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) I know we are not allowed to use any video recording device or any camera to review a course of fire. That said... If I am having a hard time discerning two distinct grease rings for what the shooter claims is a double hit and I the RO insist is just one, can I pull my cellphone, take a photo, review the photo and zoom on the area to see if there is indeed one or two hits? If the shooter keeps on insisting and asks for the RM to review, this would be the better option, but can I be innovative and save the RM and everyone some time by using a cellphone as a magnification device? Has anyone ever used a magnifier glass for this type of situation? Edited March 6, 2017 by NicVerAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38SuperDub Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Make your call - if the shooter doesn't agree pull the target - call the RM - staple a new one - and get going. Don't over think it - if you only see 1 hole - then call it as Alpha (assuming it was an alpha) Mike and let him request the RM. No point in arguing or over thinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 And of course you can use your overlay to get a better view of the shape of the hole. If it's round, it's a single shot; call it and move on. If requested, the RM can check it - that's their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 And I know an RM who has used a magnifying glass! But like the others said, let the RM deal with that level of scrutiny. Call the target as you see it after using overlays and take the proper course of action from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) DAA have a small RO kit that has gauges and a magnifier and a DQ rule # list in it, comes in a business card case, make your own for half the price but if you cant find the magnifier card I guess it's not a bad deal. Interesting that a lot of shooters change there mind when you pull out the magnifier Edited March 7, 2017 by terrydoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Jones Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Rule 9.6.8 applies. As nice as this kit appears, unless the RM specifically approves those, they are not legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, George Jones said: Rule 9.6.8 applies. As nice as this kit appears, unless the RM specifically approves those, they are not legal. To clarify. Those overlays are not legal correct? Using a magnifier independently would be legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I was with some senior members of USPSA some years ago when the made the statement that a magnifier is not legal. I don't have my book handy but will check it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraj Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, pjb45 said: I was with some senior members of USPSA some years ago when the made the statement that a magnifier is not legal. I don't have my book handy but will check it later. The word magnifier isn't in the rule book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 9.6.8 Scoring overlays approved by the Range Master must be used exclu sively, as and when required, to verify and/or dete rmine the applicable scoring zone of hits on paper targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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