DWFAN Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Rule changes posted: http://rulebooks.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rules/rul_action_pistol_17.pdf 5.3 “Ready (Starting) Position – “Poised Ready” designates a position in which the pistol is holstered and safe, and neither hand touches the pistol, holster, belt, spare magazine, or spare ammunition. If not specified in other sections of this Rule Book or in Tournament Program, the ready position shall be with competitor standing upright and hands held shoulder high. Other ready positions must be designated in the match description or program. Once the ready position is assumed, it may not be changed before the firing signal. Any such change, including the gradual motion of the hand toward the pistol (termed “creeping”) is considered a procedural error, and is to be penalized accordingly. It is the responsibility of the competitor to assume the correct ready position”. Rule 17.5 Courses of Fire for Which National Records are recognized. NOTE: National Action Pistol Shooting Records are maintained for scores fired over the following courses for “Open”, “Woman” , “Senior”, and “Grand Senior”, “Junior,” “Intermediate Junior”, and “Sub-Junior” categories.” Make the following Rule Clarification in Rules 10.15, 10.23, and 10.28: Add the words, ‘No portion of the firearm may rest against the Barricade for Open Modified, Metallic, or Production Firearms Divisions’.” Rule 3.2.1 Production Firearm: The intent of this rule is to encourage the use of Production Firearms as manufactured and promote NRA Action Pistol Shooting at the “Grass Roots” level. Accordingly, in order to keep this class from becoming an “Equipment Match”, Single Action only pistols are prohibited”. A Production Firearm is a semi-automatic handgun or revolver which is or has been a catalogue item readily available to the general public with factory notch & post sights. All standard safety features of guns must operate properly. To meet size requirements, handguns with empty magazine inserted must fit wholly within a box with internal dimensions of 8-15/16” x 6” x 1-5/8” (revolvers exempt). All magazines used during the competition must meet the dimensions of the magazine used to pass the Production Firearm size requirements. The firearm shall have no visible external modifications except as follows:” Edited March 9, 2017 by DWFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Edit: didn't read closely. Edited March 9, 2017 by RippinSVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Oh, that says 'Open Modified", the now defunct division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's still a division afaik, they just don't offer it at the CUP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPGMD Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Am I reading this right, no national records are kept for metallic or production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Pistolero Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You're not reading it correctly. There are National records for Metallic and Production. You can look them up on NRA's webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Is the new rule that the gun can't touch the barricade in ANY division? Am I reading that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Toolguy said: Is the new rule that the gun can't touch the barricade in ANY division? Am I reading that right? No. The rule reads "Open Modified". Not "Open, Modified". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 OK - thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1911 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Anyone heard how many entries so far? I think there is only one going from NZ this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2. Roger as well as Karl. Gosh! beer sales in Missouri are going to plummet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 21 minutes ago, goldfieldshooter said: Gosh! beer sales in Missouri are going to plummet . The positive is that there should be plenty left for next year ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Pistolero Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 No Richard either?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Doesn't look like it at this stage Kevin. But then he has a brain like a grass hopper; he could turn up on the day before the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Pistolero Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 23 hours ago, goldfieldshooter said: Doesn't look like it at this stage Kevin. But then he has a brain like a grass hopper; he could turn up on the day before the match. Very true! Well that stinks. Sorry to hear y'all won't be making the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Shooter Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 On March 8, 2017 at 0:03 AM, RippinSVT said: Don't get me wrong...I don't go to the Cup for any other major reason than to see friends and compete against the very best. I could truly care less if I get a goodie bag or not, or a $100 participation check for getting 46th in Production. To me it's about striving for excellence against other excellent shooters. Last year I was a little pissy they didn't pay out like they said, but that was me mostly venting frustrations with my own performance. I am obviously one of those who've bitched about the breakdown of the finals because to me there are several Cups not just the one with Doug's name on it. This is why you don't/won't see finalists in the subcategories opting to shoot for the overall in the finals. I don't consider myself to be competing with any Open shooter even if I might beat half of them, it's just not on my radar. I love shooting iron sights and I am personally competing against myself and the iron sighters, I have no aspirations of shooting a 1920 without an Open gun. At some point I'll meet personal goals in Metallic and move to Open on a full-time basis. I will still maintain that by percentage the gun divisions get the shaft. Especially considering 50-100% of the folks in some subcategories will qualify by default for finals. And when that day comes that I shoot Open full-time, I'm going to pry the Cup out of Itzstein's hands on X-count just as he gets excited about his near-win. Stealing one from Kevin is also my backup plan. Also, newsflash boys, the Finals will be clean-slate this year. Two 1920's, not one 3840. Gonna really shake things up, I like it! You bitter bitch?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Pin Shooter said: You bitter bitch?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Grasshopper here. If I don't know what I am doing, you guys can't guess either. But the paperwork is in at the ATF as we speak and I have spoken (nicely) to the lady at the ATF. I have toys to collect. Plus I think Travis needs a new set of skid marks in his undies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 and Miss Helens' Mustang needs careful running in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Side note: I caught wind that Dennis Willing has resigned. Can anybody confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Side note: I caught wind that Dennis Willing has resigned. Can anybody confirm?I saw it posted on Accurate Shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Gotcha. Well that changes things a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 14 hours ago, DWFAN said: I saw it posted on Accurate Shooter. 14 hours ago, RippinSVT said: Side note: I caught wind that Dennis Willing has resigned. Can anybody confirm? I just got an email from Damien Orsinger confirming that Dennis HAS resigned! Alan~^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Not knowing the internal politics of the NRA, is this a good or bad thing for the completion side and the Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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