will227457 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 this may belong in the IDPA section, but are these legal for IDPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Gonsalves Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) The short answer is, No. See quote from rulebook below. Either be of open top configuration that holds the speedloader in by tension and covers the full diameter and body of the speedloader or retain the speedloader with a snap or Velcro closure. Some people have modified them by wrapping something around the holder. Check out the Ready Tactical speedloader holders available for Chris Patty at CPWSA They are legal and work great! Edited December 2, 2009 by Brian Gonsalves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will227457 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 yeah I didn't think so but im being cheap...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I use this one, the screws are tension devices, i grab it by sticking my middle finger in the center of the moonclip. IDPA doesnt really address a holder with the bullets pointing in, but it is prett secure and looks pretty good so so far hasnt raised any eyebrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 They are perfect for ICORE and USPSA, IDPA has some tough rules on speedloader holders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) If you're cheap, you can make some out of PVC pipe. I haven't done it myself but it you search the revo forum you'll find some info I'm sure. Here ya go. Edited December 2, 2009 by Revopop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will227457 Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 wow that is cheap...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc540 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) One post says the PVC loaders went through an IDPA match as legal. I'm still not clear. Is it an either/or rule: top covered or body covered and retained by tension? I've been told my Safariland speedloader holder isn't IDPA legal, but now I'm not sure why. Edited December 4, 2009 by doc540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Gonsalves Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) How I read and understand the rule, it is an either / or rule. The holder needs to cover the body of the loader, the part that holds the case OR have a strap/flap with velcro or snap. Speedloader.doc Edited December 4, 2009 by Brian Gonsalves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxD Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 One post says the PVC loaders went through an IDPA match as legal.I'm still not clear. Is it an either/or rule: top covered or body covered and retained by tension? I've been told my Safariland speedloader holder isn't IDPA legal, but now I'm not sure why. Using the comp 1 in your pic as an example, the body of the speed loader between the knob and the top of the holder has to be covered. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc540 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 One post says the PVC loaders went through an IDPA match as legal.I'm still not clear. Is it an either/or rule: top covered or body covered and retained by tension? I've been told my Safariland speedloader holder isn't IDPA legal, but now I'm not sure why. Using the comp 1 in your pic as an example, the body of the speed loader between the knob and the top of the holder has to be covered. Hope this helps. Yes, thanks. CompIII's aren't legal using that particular holster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 None of them are with that holster. All of them retain the cartridges, not the body of the speedloader, and have no retention strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc540 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 None of them are with that holster. All of them retain the cartridges, not the body of the speedloader, and have no retention strap. I think I'm understanding "retention" better. Even though with the holster above and its friction bar behind the body of the speedloader, the body of the speedloader itself must be inside the holder like in the PVC crafted holsters in the link. I was misreading "retention" to mean any design that "restrained" the speedloader from falling out. Am I on the right track thinking that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 None of them are with that holster. All of them retain the cartridges, not the body of the speedloader, and have no retention strap. I think I'm understanding "retention" better. Even though with the holster above and its friction bar behind the body of the speedloader, the body of the speedloader itself must be inside the holder like in the PVC crafted holsters in the link. I was misreading "retention" to mean any design that "restrained" the speedloader from falling out. Am I on the right track thinking that way? I believe that you have the right idea now. Use this knowledge only for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1981 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 What kind of speedloader holster do you use for ICORE retro division? I see on 4wheelguns.com a North Mountain 6 pouches one, and on facebook page relative a 9 pouches one. http://4wheelguns.com/ICORE.html Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp100man Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I've seen folks take those Safariland 333 holders and add a strip of plastic or even cardboard to raise the rim to cover the speedloader body and make it IDPA legal. You can probably find some more info on the IDPA forum about it. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Patrick, when I do shoot in the retro division I use the North Mountain design that holds six speedloaders. They're a good product. I do use a K frame size for my L frames becuase I cut down my speedloaders quite a bit. Hope this is helpful. Later rdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COF Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 this may belong in the IDPA section, but are these legal for IDPA? I took a razor knife and cut one holder off, bent a piece of kydex around the other two and attached it so it covered the body of the speedloader. That makes it IDPA legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1981 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Ok, but i'm interested on a large speedloader holder ( six to nine speed) for Icore. Look at my link before on 4wheelgun website. For Idpa i'm ok with 3 TKW holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slflr Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Patrick, They are available. Email or PM me. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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