JimmyZip Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I was visiting relatives in Camas Washington this last weekend and managed to fire one of these at a range while I was sighting in my 6.8 RRA with an Eotech mounted on it. The trigger was heavy, but crisp. I was able to fire a group less than an inch at 50 yds. I know this isnt much , but this wasnt my rifle. The three rounds I fired were touching at that range, so at 100, it would probably open up to 1.5. all I could say was that the rifle seemed to fire well for me and the fellow who owned it. I watched him put about 250 rounds through it without any feed or extraction issues. He went to the 100yd range and was getting grouips of about 1". This was out of the box without any adjustment of the sights. Good accuracy out of the box is quite a selling point. The guy said his friend had one and that it was shooting just as accurately out of the box. I guess YMMV, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I was visiting relatives in Camas Washington this last weekend and managed to fire one of these at a range while I was sighting in my 6.8 RRA with an Eotech mounted on it.The trigger was heavy, but crisp. I was able to fire a group less than an inch at 50 yds. I know this isnt much , but this wasnt my rifle. The three rounds I fired were touching at that range, so at 100, it would probably open up to 1.5. all I could say was that the rifle seemed to fire well for me and the fellow who owned it. I watched him put about 250 rounds through it without any feed or extraction issues. He went to the 100yd range and was getting grouips of about 1". This was out of the box without any adjustment of the sights. Good accuracy out of the box is quite a selling point. The guy said his friend had one and that it was shooting just as accurately out of the box. I guess YMMV, I'm not saying these rilfes are "the answer" but experiences like this show the gun is just as ready to rock and roll as any other production AR rifle out there. Good info Jimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I talked to Mark Gurney (product manager at Ruger) about my carrier tilt wear. I told him it was getting pretty ugly and he is sending me a call tag so he can get the carbine in and get it looked over. I'll keep everybody posted on what he finds. I'll miss the gun but I bet the local jack rabbits will enjoy the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I talked to Mark Gurney (product manager at Ruger) about my carrier tilt wear. I told him it was getting pretty ugly and he is sending me a call tag so he can get the carbine in and get it looked over. I'll keep everybody posted on what he finds. I'll miss the gun but I bet the local jack rabbits will enjoy the break. He ain't joking about the jackrabbits. I've seen some of the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm now the proud owner of two Ruger carbines. I bought this one used and it was too good a deal to pass up. The gun is supposed to have about 400 rounds through it. It has a slight mark on the upper from cam pin drag but doesn't appear to be suffering from any carrier tilt damage. I was hoping to get three or four magazines through the gun this afternoon but it ain't going to happen today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8dirt Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm at about 1,000 rounds fired as of today. The gun continues to run fine but I have to keep the gas on "2." Some of the guys over on ARFCOM are reporting that they can run their guns on setting "1." The only issues I've had are with WOLF 55JHP ammo. In the 120 rounds or so of this stuff I've shot, I've had a total of four failures to extract. That's with the 55gr stuff. I've also run a mag of 75gr steel and 50 rounds of Hornady's steel practice ammo through the gun with no issues. Does anybody else have one of these yet? If so, how's your rifle shooting? Mine shoots 55gr-69gr stuff wonderfully but doesn't seem to be as accurate with the heavier stuff. One of these days I'll see if I can't try some Hornady 75gr TAP and see what that does. Tokarev: I thought I'd update from my earlier post. I have only shot about 500 - 600 rounds through mine thus far. All have been 55gr, PMC Bronze -- which I have been able to shoot on setting #1. So far, 100% cycling reliability with no signs of issues. I'll admit, I clean pretty well after each shooting session -- typically 100 - 200 rounds. Am still shooting open sights -- which are a limiting factor for longer range accuracy. I have been able to shoot a few 5-shot groups of around 2 - 3 inches at ~150 yards off of sandbags. Most of my shooting is at shorter ranges and offhand. I am certain that my old eyes and the coarse sights are the limiting factor. Again, in my view the trigger is poor (heavy and gritty -- just like the lawyers like em). I hope to oufit with a scope soon and will probably replace the trigger. While I have 40+ years of pretty extensive shooting experience, this is my first AR platform. Any advice on a scope, mounts or etc. is deeply appreciated. Will stay on touch ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 in my view the trigger is poor (heavy and gritty This is a huge understatement. I was by my local store yesterday and every other brand of AR15 rifle on the rack (including those at less than half the cost) had a trigger that one could live with. The Ruger was however the worse trigger I have ever felt. If I took a milspec trigger, sprayed it with WD-40, rolled it in the sand and then installed it, I could do no worse. Add to that a trigger spring that has the feel of the release spring on the emergency brake of a 1970 T Bird. And while you might blame the lawyers on the trigger pull, that certainly does not account for the grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 in my view the trigger is poor (heavy and gritty This is a huge understatement. I was by my local store yesterday and every other brand of AR15 rifle on the rack (including those at less than half the cost) had a trigger that one could live with. The Ruger was however the worse trigger I have ever felt. If I took a milspec trigger, sprayed it with WD-40, rolled it in the sand and then installed it, I could do no worse. Add to that a trigger spring that has the feel of the release spring on the emergency brake of a 1970 T Bird. And while you might blame the lawyers on the trigger pull, that certainly does not account for the grit. Both of my examples have crisp triggers despite a fairly heavy pull. On another note, I spoke to Mark Gurney this afternoon. He has received my original gun back and would like to get his engineers involved and study it. He said this might take awhile so he's going to send me a new gun as a replacement. During our brief discussion this afternoon, he told me that they have guns with 5,000 rounds through them that don't show the wear mine's got after 1,500. Whatever the cause, I'm sure Ruger will identify the problem(s) and take steps to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 When Ruger tests them, I'd be interested to see if they fire off full magazines at a time as fast as 3-gunners would in a match....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Hylton Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Showing up around Atlanta, the first rifles were $2000 at local shows. Now A local dealer has them for $1500. I handled, but didn't fire one. I like them and I'm tempted to buy one but I already have two M4 type rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I'm just glad to see Ruger turning around as a company from what they used to stand for back before the AWB and up to about 2 years ago. Their new direction is promising. I looked at one of the rifles at a local shop Wednesday night. It was a pretty nice rifle wit a great fit and finish. The trigger on that one felt heavy but broke clean and crisp. But its not advertised as a match trigger. Its just a standard trigger and I really don't expect more than that. Local price was like $1500. Looks like their CS with Eric is first rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Here is the buffer tube in gun #2. The bottom pic is as the gun was received and the other two are with another 300-400 rounds fired. Total round count is probably 750, +/- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swandme Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I was just looking for any updates before I pay for the one I have on hold. Thanks SWandME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc2125 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Recently got one. The trigger was pretty nasty, comparing to any other AR I've owned (*around 12 various brands). Did a quick dremel polish job on it and it was transformed to as good or better than any other factory ar trigger I've had......took like 5 minutes to do. Only have a couple hundred rounds through it now, about half running with aac m4 can. Had a wolf case rim crack off where the ejector grabs it, leaving a case stuck in the chamber.......rod'd it out and was back in business (done with wolf, thats the 4th or 5th stuck case in various rigs now). Accuracy has been as good or better than all my previously owned ar's. Came with my favorite troy sights, the rails "line up" and it shoots to point of aim with the rear sight centered. Effortlessly rang steel at 100, 200 & 300 last night at the range and let a couple other folks run some mags through it with the can. Have not run a optic on it, open sights only. Overall, I'm impressed with the setup, the feel and function so far....time will tell. Had read somewhere about ruger's first 556's having a bolt carrier more prone to tilt issue than the more recent ones. Edited October 20, 2009 by rc2125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangGreg66 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 These are some really great reviews of this rifle, especially gotm4's mini torture test. I first heard about this rifle shortly before it graced the pages of The American Rifleman (I think it was them... I get to many gun mags to be sure), and then saw it on youtube review by a gentleman I subscribe to, Nutnfancy. I thought I'd pass on his reviews for anyone who wants to see the gun in action. Nutnfancy does a lot of firearms and other reviews and I've found him to be very thorough, humble and unbiased in his purveyance of information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBBn88PfJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Vff1np7jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) Please see additional targets below. Edited November 9, 2009 by Tokarev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Not too bad Andy. As for the trigger, you should let Marty put the Accuracy Speaks trigger in it. You'll love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) I took several different loads out to my favorite flat spot in the desert this afternoon and set about dialing in my SR556 and my Burris XTR-14. I've got the scope mounted in a Bobro mount. Otherwise, the Ruger is stock and unchanged from factory. Up first are my 100yd targets. 5 rounds of mixed military brass with Winchester primers and Prvi 55gr FMJ bullets using H300 powder. (Actually shot this group yesterday) 5 rounds of Winchester brass with WOLF primers and Hornady V-MAX 55gr. 5 rounds of commercial reloads from Accurate Ammunition. I bought these from Cabela's several years ago. Military mixed brass and a 52gr hollow point. 5 rounds of Winchester brass with WOLF primers and Ramshot TAC powder. Bullet used was a 60gr Sierra Varminter. 5 rounds of Federal 62gr XM223SP1 factory. Edited November 9, 2009 by Tokarev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 5 rounds of LC02 brass with Winchester primers and Hodgdon Varget. Topped off with a Nosler 69gr BTHP. 5 rounds of factory Remington 45gr HP. 5 rounds of WOLF 75gr steel. And my 300 yard targets. My first 5 rounds of Federal 62gr XM223SP1. The scope had not been adjusted from the 100 yard initial zero. 5 rounds of Federal 62gr XM223SP1 factory after adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 My 69gr Varget load again. The 5th round hit high and actually off the paper. It was right off the paper and on the cardboard target backer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Two more groups fired at 100 yards. Both are ten rounds off the bench and were fired over the course of about five minutes for each group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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