Paul Burtchell Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) What year did major Power Factor change from 175 to 165?? Edited February 3, 2009 by baerburtchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 In IPSC it changed from 175 to 160 (for Open) in 1999 at the Philippines World Shoot (General Assembly) 19.10 Motion: That the Major power factor floor for Open Division be 160. Moved: USA Seconded: Slovenia For: 26 Against: 5 Abstain: 3 Carried 19.11 Motion: That the Major power factor floor for Limited (Standard) Division be 170. Moved: Germany Seconded: Denmark For: 19 Against: 11 Abstain: 4 Carried I think USPSA changed theirs to a flat 165 the following year, but I maybe wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuthh Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 In IPSC it changed from 175 to 160 (for Open) in 1999 at the Philippines World Shoot (General Assembly)19.10 Motion: That the Major power factor floor for Open Division be 160. Moved: USA Seconded: Slovenia For: 26 Against: 5 Abstain: 3 Carried 19.11 Motion: That the Major power factor floor for Limited (Standard) Division be 170. Moved: Germany Seconded: Denmark For: 19 Against: 11 Abstain: 4 Carried I think USPSA changed theirs to a flat 165 the following year, but I maybe wrong. +1+1 really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGentry Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I like the separation of power factors from open to standard in the IPSC rules. I think it was a great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atek3 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I like the separation of power factors from open to standard in the IPSC rules. I think it was a great idea! could you elucidate on that point? My understanding was that they reduced power factor to reduce Kb's from people trying to achieve major with 9mm caliber bullets. Wouldn't having a separate power factor for limited just complicate things a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I see no reason to have two different PF Floors for Standard/Limited and Open. Both @ 165 is fine, it works. If we keep reducing it, we'll get to bb guns yet! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I see no reason to have two different PF Floors for Standard/Limited and Open. Both @ 165 is fine, it works. If we keep reducing it, we'll get to bb guns yet!Jim Jim - Or we'll start carrying a second pistol, a carbine and a shotgun and dress funny...oh wait! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 If I remember the IPSC logic it was that an open gun was so "easy" to shoot that the power factor was not all that relevant anymore. However, the standard gun was still a "manly" gun and needed a higher power factor to exhibit your ability to control it. Those are obviously not IPSC's words, but it is a summary of my recollection of the reasoning. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I know it was in late late 90's if my failing memory serves. I miss 175 PF. Its harder to shoot an "easy to shoot" gun at that PF. Quite a few smiths couldn't make a reliable 180 PF gun and I think that had a little to do with it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 If I remember the IPSC logic it was that an open gun was so "easy" to shoot that the power factor was not all that relevant anymore. However, the standard gun was still a "manly" gun and needed a higher power factor to exhibit your ability to control it.Those are obviously not IPSC's words, but it is a summary of my recollection of the reasoning. Easy to shoot but some older open shooters have now wrist problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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